More often is better, but I said every other month so that we would get too
discouraged from irate store clerks.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jason Darfus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, 28 February, 2005 22:24
Subject: [USMA:32315] Re: Civil action (was: New metric legislation
introduced)


> Every other month?  I do those things every time.  Well, except for the
> one about auto fuel.  The truth is I even offered to buy a new hanging
> scale with a dual kg / lb dial for a local coffee house if they'd also
> price their beans per kilogram and 100 grams.  It would have cost me a
> couple hundred dollars, I'm sure.  No take.
>
> But yea, I agree that we have to keep pressing until sellers realize
> there are folks out there who use those "foreign" units.
>
> -----
> Jason D. Darfus
> Columbus.OH.US
>
>


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>
> On Feb 28, 2005, at 15:46, Gavin Young - Renewable Electricity
> Solutions wrote:
>
> > The USMA works hard to attract the attention of US metric lovers, but
> > I have
> > an idea of how they can do more. It needs to develope an action plan
> > to get
> > all US metric lovers to take action with their consumer power. If
> > action
> > plans are posted on the USMA website, more US metric lovers will get
> > excited
> > about getting involved with USMA. For example here are some ideas:
> >
> > Encourage metric lovers in the USA to do the following two months from
> > now,
> > and every two months thereafter:
> >
> > 1) When going to a grocery store or deli to buy food by the "weight"
> > from a
> > store clerk that will "weigh" the food for you, buy the food by
> > kilogram
> > instead of the pound. If they say their scale can not display in kg,
> > then
> > make them calculate the conversion to lbs. The idea is to get them
> > tired of
> > making the calculations, so that they get a dual scale and begin
> > weighing by
> > the kg when requested.
> >
> > 2) When buying automotive fuel (gasoline, diesel, biodiesel, ethonal,
> > etc.)
> > at fuel stations ask for the amount in liters. If they say their pumps
> > can
> > not display in L, then make them calculate the conversion to L. The
> > idea is
> > to get them tired of making the calculations, so that they get a dual
> > pump
> > and begin dispensing fuel by the L when requested.
> >
> > 3) When buying produce that you weigh yourself, speak to the store
> > manager
> > and ask that they provide at least one scale which "weighs" in kg and
> > that
> > their produce price signs include the price in $/kg.
> >
> > 4) When ordering shipping boxes for your business specify the size you
> > want
> > in mm or cm, and if they say all of their boxes are in inches only,
> > then
> > make them calculate the conversion to mm or cm. The idea is to get them
> > tired of making the calculations, so that they start stamping their
> > boxes
> > with dual units and start printing their catalogs and price lists in
> > dual
> > units.
> >
> > 5) Do the same for other categories.
> >
> > As the months go buy, more and more people should be joining our
> > coordinated
> > efforts and the businesses will begin to take notice. The idea is for
> > us to
> > use some of the tactics of the environmental groups, but not their
> > civil
> > disobedience actions. We can also encourage each member to hand out
> > metric
> > flyers in their community on a given day of each month and tell them
> > how
> > they can get involved in the action plans. What do you think?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Saturday, 26 February, 2005 12:59
> > Subject: [USMA:32289] Re: New metric legislation introduced
> >
> >
> >> The legislation is a step in the right direction.  It would more
> >> clearly
> >> define responsiblity for avoiding confusion over units.  However, I
> >> would like the legislation to go a step farther.  There needs to be an
> >> intention of phasing out old inch/gallon/pound units.  The language is
> >> not strong enough in this respect.  An agency needs to be set up that
> >> would coordinate all government agencies(state and local included) to
> >> a
> >> transition to the metric system.  The metric board of the late 70s
> >> failed because Jimmy Carter appointed people who were not metric
> >> friendly.  The board need to understand the issues and have a vision
> >> of
> >> an all-metric America.
> >> I was wondering if there is a lobbying group out there that will do
> >> what
> >> the USMA cannot do - lobby congress for stronger metric conversion
> >> legislation.  That would be a group I would be willing to support
> >> financially.  If only the USMA were more active in lobbying Congress,
> >> but from what I understand, they cannot lobby.  I have written letters
> >> to senators and congressmen, and while their responses were positive,
> >> Congress is still not taking a leading role in metric conversion.
> >> Unless they take such a role I don't see much more change for the
> >> better.  We will continue with more of the same, where we celebrate
> >> when
> >> we find a new product in metric units.  Where road construction goes
> >> metric only to switch back again.
> >>
> >> Jason Darfus wrote:
> >>
> >>> Rep. Ehlers of Michigan got the 109th Congress off to a nice start
> >>> with
> > H.R. 33 :
> >>>
> >>> *********
> >>> SUMMARY AS OF:
> >>> 1/4/2005--Introduced.
> >>>
> >>> Amends the Metric Conversion Act of 1975 to require guidelines on
> > government use of the metric system of measurement to require any
> > Federal
> > agency transaction providing for a person to perform scientific or
> > engineering research with Federal funding to include provisions: (1)
> > clearly
> > identifying the extent to which such system or other systems of
> > measurement
> > will be used under the transaction and requiring such use; and (2)
> > assigning
> > such person the financial responsibility for failure to follow such
> > requirements.
> >>> *********
> >>>
> >>> As it related to federal funding, does anyone have any thoughts on
> >>> the
> > possibility of USMA receiving grants (either of U.S. or other national
> > origin) to further promote SI to the American public?  I would think
> > Europe,
> > Canada, Japan, Australia, or China might see some economic benefit to
> > this.
> >>> Just to brainstorm a little : I'm thinking billboards, TV
> >>> commercials and
> > the like - along the lines of promoting national pride, scientific and
> > economic competitiveness, international unity.  Be Modern, Go Metric.
> > Be
> > progressive, not regressive -- Go Metric.
> >>>
> >>> As for FPLA, I did not find anything related to this.  Any news on
> > anticipated date of introduction to Congress?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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