<<There is no legal requirement that public companies "constantly increase profits." >>

I think I know where the poster is coming from.
Similar to the UK, there is this a constant (albeit not legal) requirement to "beat last year's profit". It's almost deemed as some sort of tragedy if the current year's profits a lower than last year's.

This gives the company an impossible notion of always increasing profits or "fail".

--- Begin Message --- At 23 06 05, 04:16 PM, Gavin Young - Renewable Electricity Solutions wrote:
Publically traded for-profit corporations are generally dominated by
excessive greed, in part because of the short term focus of many of their
shareholders and because they are legally required to try to constantly
increase profits.

I disagree with both statements here. Sure there are some public companies that are greedy, but the vast majority work hard to provide value while making reasonable profits. The average public company in the USA makes only about 7% after-tax profit, which can hardly be called greedy.

There is no legal requirement that public companies "constantly increase profits."

Non-profit corporations are legally prevented from manufacturing goods (such
as environmentally friendly renewable energy products) and they have the
shortcoming of being allowed to pay huge salaries to those running the
organization (Goodwill Industries comes to mind).

In your discussion you skip over a very large portion of the US economy: privately-held, for-profit companies. In numbers of firms, they represent probably 90% of all active companies in the USA. I don't know what they represent in terms of total GDP, but I'd be surprised if it was under 30% to 40%.

What we need are for individuals to voluntarily create entities that have the
purpose of manufacturing environmentally friendly products that are very low
maintanence and that made to last years, without excessive salaries to those
running the organization. We also need legislation that recognizes this type
of entity. Such a hybrid entity (a for-semiprofit corporation) could create
serious competion for the for-profit corporations because the hybrid entity
would better meet the needs of consumers, while doing a better job of
conserving the world's resources. Our current capitalist system has too many
excesses, however state run entities also have problems.

There is no need for any such new entity. You, or any one else, can go start such a company tomorrow -- there is absolutely NO barrier to you doing so. Structure it as a sole-proprietorship, or a partnership, or an LLC, or an S-corp, or even a C-corp. None of these requires large salaries to the owners, none are prohibited from manufacturing.

Oh, there is the little problem that the "environmentally friendly products" you suggest may not be anything anyone wants to buy, at least at what you would have to charge. But that is entirely unrelated to the legal structure of the company.

Even the non-profit issue is moot: companies that don't make money don't pay corporate income taxes -- they are taxed on their profits, not on their sales.

Jim Elwell


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