On Saturday 02 July 2005 21:30, Pat Naughtin wrote:
> Dear Pierre,
>
> I have renamed this thread and interspersed some remarks.
>
> on 2005-07-03 06.26, Pierre Abbat at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > While metricating someone's food calculations,
>
> When you say 'metricating' do you mean changing old pre-metric measures
> into metric units?
>
> When you do this which metric units are you aiming for? As I understand
> history there were 5 or 6 different metric systems (with names such as cgs,
> mks, mksA, etc.) before all of these were incorporated into the
> International System of Units (SI) in 1960. There is now only one metric
> system.

The original calculations start with yield in bushels per acre, pounds per 
acre, and even non-units such as cartons per acre, and end up with how many 
square feet she plants in each crop. I converted them to kilograms per 
hectare with the result in square meters. Most of them she and I then took 
the square root of. For some the end result is a number of plants.

I'm not going to post it to the list now, as I'm not finished and she hasn't 
checked it.

> I have not heard the term 'burnworth' before. I have used 'energy content'
> and 'energy value'; of these I prefer 'energy content'. When I have changed
> the units to SI units I do not then seek to change them into one or other
> of the old metric systems as you have done here ‹ I just leave them in SI.
> In this case I would not change 37 kilojoules per gram  or 16 kJ/g any
> further (although some purists might insist that I use 37 MJ/kg and 16
> MJ/kg because kilogram is the base unit in SI)

It's a calque of German "Brennwert". I converted it to kcal/g because that's 
what I've heard, but now that I know it's 37 kJ/g I'll use that.

> Here is a reasonable set of approximations, but be aware that not all fatty
> acids and not all carbohydrates provide the same amount of energy The
> dietary fibre can be a bit tricky too as it depends on whether the fibres
> are broken down by bacteria in your large intestine.
>
> €     Fat - 37 kJ/g
> €     Alcohol - 29 kJ/g
> €     Carbohydrates - 16 kJ/g
> €     Protein - 17 kJ/g
> €     Dietary fibre - 13 kJ/g
> €     Water - 0 kJ/g
>
> > As to the blueberries, do any of you know how many grams of blueberries
> > (or any other cowberry - it shouldn't be much different) it takes to make
> > a kilogram, or a liter, of jam?
>
> Looking over a range of jam recipes, it seems to me that jams are usually
> about half fruit and half sugar with sometimes a little water added to dry
> fruits and a little citrus added for pectin to help with setting (and to
> add a little flavor). So if you have 500 grams of blueberries you should
> add 500 grams of sugar and after boiling away some of the water this will
> yield a little under a kilogram of jam. The yield will also be just under
> one litre so you will probably 'fill' 5 x 200 mL jars to just below the
> brim.
>
> Here's a good recipe to get you started.
>
> 
http://www.inmamaskitchen.com/RECIPES/RECIPES/Basics/jms_preserves/jam_berry.html

I found 
http://www.waitrose.com/food_drink/recipes/recipesearch/Recipe/0207072-r02.asp 
, and it sounded reasonable when I substituted the figures in her 
calculations. The jam is the minor part of her blueberry usage, and I ended 
up with five bushes as she did.

phma
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