Don, sir:
I take liberty to forwar this message to you and list for its evaluation and
NOT for raising any controversy on Time and calendars. This is to point the
REASONS, as I heve investigated, the cause and reason for failure of
Decimale Time during the French Revolution & French Republican calendar.
Regards,
Brij Bhushan Vij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "Brij Bhushan Vij" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Time RE: Decimal Time & Leap second to be abolished?
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 10:42:24 +0000
Hynes:
.....divided into 240 segments...
Assuming Earth to be a hypothetical sphere of radius 6371 km, its
circumference of 40030.15927869 kilometre, on DIVISION into 240-segments
shall be: 166.79233033 kilometre. If this was to have any 'hearing the
LENGTH unit needed a modification from *present metre length to 5 ft
5".666076 (say, the normal human of 1.6764 m)*.
Assuming this to be acceptable, the practical determination and/or
accptance as its DEFINITION in Le Systeme Internationale d'Unites would
become the fundamental issue. Leave apart the problems that school/college
students might face between tutor -n-taught community.
THIS IS THE REASON, my New Metre (m') is defined and linked to 1/240000th
of SI-second as:
http://www.the-light.com/cal/bbv_m-astrounits.doc
If my views are NOT acceptable due to 'some other criteria', I shall wait
for EXPERTS to re-examine my *proposals for defining 'decimal second (sd) -
which in fact would be the METRIC SECOND, linked to New Length Unit - New
Metre (m')*. Moreso, via my value for Pi =100000/31831, the Earth
circumference would work to 36000 km'.
The question I raised was NOT of single unit for TIME, but *that of
bridging the gaps left delibrately or otherwise* in Le Systeme
Internationale d'Unites (SI-units). This is what I have been talking for
almost THREE years on <[email protected]> and <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
Does any member on the list have the BOOK to confirm: 'what these 240
segments meant?'
Brij Bhushan Vij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: John Hynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: East Carolina University Calendar discussion List
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Time RE: Decimal Time & Leap second to be abolished?
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 23:15:25 -0700
I don't currently have the book, but the leading (although not only)
proposal was for 24 hours per day, 100 minutes per hour and 100 seconds
per minute, with the circle (and the earth's circumference) divided into
240 segments. I think that the main reason it failed was that there not
sufficient benefit for reforming time, since there already was a single
standard.
--
John Hynes
www.decimaltime.org
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brij Bhushan Vij"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: New Time RE: Decimal Time & Leap second to be abolished?
Hohn:
Thanks.
.....if you want to know what it says.....
I do want to know what it says..... I shall be satisfied if I knew: what
were the compelling reasons to *discard, a genuine and positive approach
to KILL '24-hrs - decimale/metrication of Time of the HOUR'*.
It shall be great, if you or any one on the list can point the
REASONS/pointers that led to its failure - in bridging Time unit, Length
unit & arcAngle (degree or radian), the approach I have worked for!
Brij Bhushan Vij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: John Hynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: East Carolina University Calendar discussion List
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Time RE: Decimal Time & Leap second to be abolished?
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:52:27 -0700
The link was not the reference. The BOOK at that link is the reference.
You need to read the book, itself, not the Amazon page or any other web
page. The experts' commentary cannot be expected to give all the
information, especially since decimalization of time and angle is only a
small part of the book. If you do not wish to purchase the book, I
assume that there are public libraries where you live which might have
it, if you want to know what it says.
--
John Hynes
www.decimaltime.org
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brij Bhushan Vij"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: New Time RE: Decimal Time & Leap second to be abolished?
John:
.....proposed previously by others.
I do NOT contribute to 'avoidable controversy'. I did go to the book
link you provided and reached Poincaré's book BUT got NOTHING:
Amazon, like I just did:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0393020010/qid=1121327413/sr=8-3/ref=pd_bbs_ur_3/103-7603949-6730208?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
inside about 24-hr x100m day etc. The 'experts commentry' did come up.
Attempts to solve 'metric mystery and time decimalisation failed'
because at NO STAGE were time, length and arcAngle allowed to be
'inter-linked'.
It was THIS failure of Prieur of Cote d'Or that went against *time
metrication* but allowed the Metre to be adopted by the decree of 1795
April! Does anyone on the list know: 'What fate was met by 37
contestant watches/clocks of 1794 February, to arrive at a 'Surest,
easiest and cheapest' solution that could provide solution to DUAL TIME
during transition?
Should you want a copy of my book: Towards A Unified Technology, I can
have you sent one - although 'unprofessionally' edited by myself to
meet my pocked when published in 1982.
Brij Bhushan Vij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: John Hynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: East Carolina University Calendar discussion List
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Time RE: Decimal Time & Leap second to be abolished?
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 17:09:41 -0700
Do you mean, why did Poincaré's, and your, efforts come to naught?
Because the supposed benefits of decimalizing time were not sufficient
to overthrow the long-established and universal standard. Unlike
units of length, weight (or mass), etc., there already is a single,
international standard for time, even though it is not decimal.
I should also have pointed out that the various time proposals that
Poincaré's committee examined were all connected to the decimalization
of the measurement of angle, as well.
As for your contributions, I have seen your list before. Some of them
seem to have been proposed previously by others.
--
John Hynes
www.decimaltime.org
2005 July 15.006 UT
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brij Bhushan Vij"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: New Time RE: Decimal Time & Leap second to be abolished?
John:
....."flying birds".....
By flying birds, I mean *thoughts in the air - since 1890, as you
say; and my contributions since 1970-.....*. I have posted a list of
my contributions:
http://www.the-light.com/cal/bbv_copyrite-n-ptnt%20.doc
Thanks for the link.
Brij Bhushan Vij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: John Hynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: East Carolina University Calendar discussion List
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Time RE: Decimal Time & Leap second to be
abolished?
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 00:51:39 -0700
I wrote:
.....1890s. Several possibilities were examined, including
decimalizing 1/24 day hours,.....
Then Brij wrote:
Any site references? AND, what were the compelling reasosns to
'Kill the flying birds?' There must be good reason to do so, more
than just politics!
"Site references"? It's a BOOK. I gave the author and full title.
Try your local library or book store. Y'know, there are other
sources besides web sites. Or just type the title into Amazon, like
I just did:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0393020010/qid=1121327413/sr=8-3/ref=pd_bbs_ur_3/103-7603949-6730208?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
I do not know what "flying birds" refers to.
--
John Hynes
www.decimaltime.org
2005 July 14.327 UT
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brij Bhushan Vij"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: New Time RE: Decimal Time & Leap second to be
abolished?
John, Shriramana ji:
.....1890s. Several possibilities were examined, including
decimalizing 1/24 day hours,.....
Any site references? AND, what were the compelling reasosns to
'Kill the flying birds?' There must be good reason to do so, more
than just politics!
Brij Bhushan Vij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: John Hynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: East Carolina University Calendar discussion List
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Time RE: Decimal Time & Leap second to be
abolished?
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:42:36 -0700
It is common for employee time clocks to record time in tenths or
hundredths of an hour, and for wages to be calculated accordingly,
rather than having to convert between hours and minutes. Just
look at any time clock catalogue, and you'll see that many support
decimal hours. So, 11:42 would be recorded as 11.7h.
--
John Hynes
www.decimaltime.org
2005 July 13.779 UT
----- Original Message ----- From: "Shriramana Sharma"
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 3:34 AM
Subject: Re: New Time RE: Decimal Time & Leap second to be
abolished?
John Hynes wrote:
1890s. Several possibilities were examined, including
decimalizing 1/24 day hours, as many corporations now do.
Corporations have decimalised hours? How?
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