[USMA:34173] Re: FPLA Amendment Not To Be Introduced In Foreseeable Future

[Philip S Hall]

Title: Re: [USMA:34140] Re: FPLA Amendment Not To Be Introduced In Foreseeable Future

I appreciate the sentiment here, unfortnately the two are interdependant. There is a danger that Britain, and other EU member states, are likely to ask for an extention of the 2009 deadline if they don't make any progress with the USA. You may be right in that they won't tolerate concessions to the US labelling rules indefinitely, but there's not much evidence up to now that they will take such a stand.   I'm also sure that to some degree Britian is being held back by American adherence to traditional measures because of our strong cultural links. We get a lot of American TV/movie productions here in the UK, far more than from any other country even English speaking ones like Australia and Canada. That is gradually changing but if the USA started going metric big time, I'm sure we'd see faster progress here and a lot of the opposition would become isolated with nowhere to go.   Phil Hall   ----- Original Message ----- From: Carleton MacDonald To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 2:00 AM Subject: [USMA:34163] Re: FPLA Amendment Not To Be Introduced In Foreseeable Future Agreed.  The USA needs to get to a point where it feels very, very, isolated – a wombat island in a metric ocean, completely surrounded.  I’m afraid little else will get it off the dime.   Jim Elwell is right that so much is metricated behind the scenes.  But until we start seeing gas by the liter, 2 km to the next exit, my weight being expressed by everyone as 75 kg (I WISH – don’t ask me what it really is, 75 kg is what it should be), and potatoes sold by the kilogram – we just aren’t there, in the minds of the people, and as far as they’re concerned we don’t do none of that furrin’ metric stuff.   Incidentally, I was in a Michael’s craft store yesterday.  As I walked out I heard the salesclerk at one of the register say to a customer, “A meter – that’s a bit over one yard.”  I have no idea what the context of that was but I would have loved to have known.   Carleton   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 20:41 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:34161] Re: FPLA Amendment Not To Be Introduced In Foreseeable Future   I didn't see them in the list posted in USMA 34120.  I looked again more thoroughly and they are there.  Sorry.  They are one of the prime supporters of metric, one would think with their influence they could move the FMI to action.   Actually if the FMI attitude has motivated the EU Commission to act against the UKs inaction, I rather the US do nothing at this point.  I'd rather see the inaction in the US continue and allow the EU to work with its UK interests to complete the changeover there.   Completion of metrication in the UK is far more important to our goal then permission to have metric only labels in the supermarket.   Dan  ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Chernack To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Sunday, 2005-08-28 20:25 Subject: [USMA:34159] Re: FPLA Amendment Not To Be Introduced In Foreseeable Future   Uhhh, P&G is a member of the FMI so I don’t see what the problem is there.  It’s clearly on the membership list on the website.   Phil   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 7:13 PM To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:34157] Re: FPLA Amendment Not To Be Introduced In Foreseeable Future   Too bad P&G isn't part of the group or they could work on them from the inside.    Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: Nat Hager III To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Sunday, 2005-08-28 16:48 Subject: [USMA:34151] Re: FPLA Amendment Not To Be Introduced In Foreseeable Future   Perhaps the FMI can be assuaged with a plan led by Procter & Gamble and others who favor metrication to standardize on a basic set of sizes to minimize cost conversions and even reduce maintenance costs for grocers.   I couldn't agree more!  If the government's too timid and the lobby groups oppose, private industry has too take the lead.  P&G is the obvious choice!   Nat No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.16/83 - Release Date: 2005-08-26 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.16/83 - Release Date: 2005-08-26