Daniel,Paul, Phil sir(s):
volume of a sphere = 4/3 * pi * r^3
BUT, what is Pi.....to overcome ambiguity???

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From: "Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
Subject: [USMA:34910] Re: Approximations (was fractions)
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:46:05 -0400

But where do you end it? Do you cut things into eights? sixteenths? thirds, fifths, ninety-ninths?

I made the point sometime ago that halves and quarters are common in speech and are also quite easily expressed as a decimal. But fractions and or ratios beyond this are more difficult to use and conceptualize and are not used or understood by the "common people".

Dan



----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Trusten, R.Ph." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, 2005-10-16 11:48
Subject: [USMA:34906] Re: Approximations (was fractions)


I hasten to add to my comments this morning that I recognize the importance of ratios, but, gee, gosh, and golly, I prefer to MEASURE DECIMALLY! So, on
that point, Philip, I agree with you. But, I just don't think that ratios
should be demoted to the rank that we metricationists have been assigning
lately.  Somewhere, even in the metric literature, I read the remark,
"People will always cut things in half." I, too, am guilty of cutting things
in half (grin).


----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip S Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 09:59
Subject: [USMA:34904] Re: Approximations (was fractions)


> You choose the number of useful digits by knowledge of the situation. > A
> person who is properly taught how to apply the rules of significant
digits
> knows how many digits apply. A number left in fractional form is not > an > answer. If I have a number like 2/3, what does that mean if I'm trying
to
> build something with it?

2/3 is no less an anwer than 0.67

Admittedly the problem presented is purely numerical with no context.

> Even if you have a number such as 2/3, you still have to assign a level
of
> accuracy to it.  There is no way you can make something exactly 2/3 of
> something. You are always going to have to state a plus/minus > something
> else.

Alright, but it may not be an end result. It could be an intermediate step
involving a fractional coeifficient. Take as an example the formulae for
the
volume of a sphere - 4/3 * pi * r^3

In any case, if the figure of 2/3 was an approximation for something, with
a
known error bound, then by substituting a decimal approximation you
introduce a further error.

Phil Hall





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