Not only is pi irrational, it is transcendental which means it is not the solution of any algebraic equation of the form <some polynomial> = 0 where the coefficients of the polynomial terms are rational numbers (integers or fractions). This is a stronger statement than saying pi is irrational which is just saying it can't be expressed (exactly) as a fraction.

Pi is a specific well-defined number and you can't redefine it to be something else (such as some rational number) any more than you can redefine the number four to be the square root of seventeen. Pierre is correct.

For what it is worth there are vastly more transcendental numbers than algebraic numbers - it is just that they don't crop up so often in our mathematics.


Brij Bhushan Vij wrote:

You are talking nonsense. The value of pi is irrational.

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What makes you conclude.....The value of pi is irrational.?
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From: Pierre Abbat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
Subject: [USMA:34900] Re: common fractions fail for some numbers
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 02:33:05 -0400

On Sunday 16 October 2005 01:42, Brij Bhushan Vij wrote:
> The question I raised is NOT which value for Pi is more accurate & why? BUT > that *is there a value for Pi that satisfy the relation: a circle has 2 Pi > radians - without defining either Pi or radian*? If there is a deviation to > value for Pi, with WHAT are we attempting to compare, to kaow how musch is
> this OFF; AND from what standard!
> I claim my value for Pi that defines *both the value for Pi and Radian and > FIXES their values*. Thus, Pi =100000/31831 (exact); and fixes radian at
> 57*.2958 =57* 17/44".88 - a value fixed by International Society of
> Mathematics.

You are talking nonsense. The value of pi is irrational. It can be defined as the ratio of circumference to diameter, the smallest positive number whose sine is 0, or the sum of any of various infinite series, and these are all
the same number. 100000/31831 and 355/113 are not values of pi, they are
approximations to pi.

phma





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