Printing industry slowly metricating?
 
I don't know about the US, but in the UK the printing industry was one of the first industries to be metricated.  The stationery merchants and office furniture merchants loved it - they could reduce the number of stock lines dramatically when quarto and foolscap lines of stationery were replaced with A4 lines of stationery  (it halved the number of stock lines that they carried with no real reduction in customer choice).
 
Anybody who uses a computer printer will notice that it can be set for either US Letter or A4. I have often muttered under my breath ("Bl**dy Yanks - can't they get their house in order" - by definition present company excepted of course) when a piece of software defaults to US Letter size, our printers are set to A4 and the whole system siezes up (or waits for manual intervention).
 
BTW, a few years ago I was testing on a piece of software that had to operate in both Germany (where I was working) and in the US.  I could not buy any Letter of Foolscap paper, so I resorted to taking A3 paper and using a guilotine to cut it to size. 
----- Original Message -----
From: Remek Kocz
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 4:05 AM
Subject: [USMA:35231] Re: BBs

Printing industry slowly metricating?  I thought this is one industry outside of aircraft and construction that would be impossible to even budge from the USC units.  Can you give any specific examples?

The only time I've seen grams on ammunition cases was on some Greek-made 9 mm rounds.  It was all in English, but all SI.  And I doubt they had too many complaints about it.

For what it's worth, a guy whose wife fills her own shells told me that she weighs the loads in grams.  Not grains--I specifically asked.

On 11/17/05, Jim Elwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At 17 11 05, 04:12 PM, Remek Kocz wrote:
>You're talking about airsoft BB's, right?  I've seen them in the 6.0
>mm/0.12 g designations at Gander Mountain.  Never saw any USC units,
>even in parentheses.  However, once I walked over to the shotgun
>shells, the reality set in, as everything was in inches and (!!)
>grains.  Some manufacturers did list the shell lengths in
>milimeters, but that was a rarity.  There is an industry that we can
>pester about including metric information on their products.

The firearms & ammunition industry is like the printing industry:
slowly metricating, but so thoroughly steeped in a variety of oddball
units that it will take awhile.

For example, when you buy 9 mm rounds, the bullet weights are listed
in grains. Winchester lists their Russian 7.62 round as "7.62x39mm
Russian, 123 grain, USA Full Metal Jacket." (A grain, of course,
being 1/7000th of a pound, or 64.8 mg.)

In fact, I do not recall bullet or load (gunpowder) weights ever
using units other than grains.

Accuracy in firearms is often measured in minutes of arc, but I guess
that arguably qualifies as a "unit in use with SI"
http://www.answers.com/topic/minute-of-arc:

"This unit is commonly found in the firearms industry and literature,
particularly that concerning high-powered rifles. It is popular
because 1 MOA almost exactly subtends one inch at 100 yards, a
traditional distance on target ranges."

Jim Elwell


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