Dear Martin,

Thanks for the idea of the light bulb and the jam -- I like it and I'm sure
that I'll use it when an occasion arises.

Cheers,

Pat Naughtin
PO Box 305 Belmont 3216
Geelong, Australia
61 3 5241 2008
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.metricationmatters.com


On 11/03/06 9:28 PM, "Martin Vlietstra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Pat,
> 
> I recently had that problem while doing some part-time teaching of physics.
> I got around it by getting a jar of jam and a light bulb.  The light-bulb
> had "100W" stamped on it, while the nutritional information part of the
> label on the jam jar "Energy - nnn Joules /100g".  It is quite simple - one
> spoon of jam will contain a specific quantity of energy - if you take a long
> time to eat the jam, the rate at which you absorb the energy will be slower.
> On the other hand a light bulb produces 100W of light (or rather 10W of
> light and 90W of heat)  regardless of how long it is on.
> 
> I did of course explain to my student that if, after eating the jam, he sat
> on a bicycle, had a dynamo attached to the wheel and started pedalling, the
> energy from the jam would be converted to light energy for a specific period
> of time.  (I also explained that this was not a 100% efficient machine).
> 
> Does this example help at all.
> 
> Regards
> Martin.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pat Naughtin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:25 AM
> Subject: [USMA:36244] Re: diesel electric propulsion
> 
> 
>> Dear Robert and All,
>> 
>> In your email below, I note your careful use of the word 'power' to mean
> the
>> 'time rate of using energy'.
>> 
>> However, such careful use is not all that common in the public media. For
>> example, we have here in the Melbourne paper, 'The Age', a journalist with
>> the title, 'Energy Reporter' who regularly uses the word 'power' when he
>> means energy, and the word 'energy' when he means power.
>> 
>> As an example he recently wrote that if a particular power station did not
>> produce enough kilowatt hours of electricity, there would be a power
>> failure.
>> 
>> Do you have a rule of thumb to indicate when to use 'power' and when to
> use
>> 'energy'? How would you advise a young journalist to distinguish between
>> these concepts and their correct metric or SI units.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Pat Naughtin
>> PO Box 305 Belmont 3216
>> Geelong, Australia
>> 61 3 5241 2008
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> http://www.metricationmatters.com
>> 
>> On 11/03/06 6:59 AM, "Robert H. Bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>>                             2006 March 10
>>> In the matter of propulsion with diesel engines, the design was made
> optimum
>>> more than 60 years ago. A railroad locomotive has a diesel engine (often
>>> more than one) which drives a generator which drives electric motors
> which
>>> drive the propulsion wheels with fixed gears (no gear shift). The
> generator
>>> and the motors are each compounded to allow maxumum power at any speed.
> The
>>> generator and the motors are a matched set. A compound motor has both a
>>> shunt field winding and a series field winding.  The design of the
> number of
>>> wire turns (the windings) in each of these fields and the number of
> turns in
>>> the armature (the moving part of the motor) is motor engineering at its
>>> best.  The design gives maximum power transfer without controls in the
>>> electric circuit.  The throttle (the injector stroke) on the diesel
> engine
>>> is the only control.  Railroad diesel engines are never turned off so
> there
>>> is a way to stop generation.  (I would open the shunt field so the
> engine
>>> could idle with no generation.)
>>> 
>>> To start a train from zero speed the diesel engine can throttle up to
>>> maximum power while the train is still hardly movimg.  The compounding
> in
>>> both the generator and the motors gives high efficiency at this low
> speed.
>>> The compound windings give high efficiency at any speed so the throttle
> can
>>> be left wide open at any speed.
>>> 
>>> For ship propulsion, the design may be different.  For a screw
> propellor,
>>> power and efficiency change with speed of the shaft rotation and the
> speed
>>> of the ship.  I have been told that the design of ship screws is more an
> art
>>> than an engineering matter.  So, screw performance is found by
> experiment.
>>> Given this measured performance, the motor compound can be designed.
>>> 
>>>                             Robert H Bushnell PhD PE
>>> 
>> 
> 

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