World markets in gold do work in troy ounces; however, my experience has been 
that some local markets deal in grams for items which contain precious metal 
since SI scales are readily available  for off-the-shelf  purchase.

However, total weight of an item doesn't tell you the quality/percentage of 
total  weight of  precious metal in the item being purchased.  Gold in carats 
tells you the quality but not the quantity of gold in an item such as a pin, 
bracelet or chain.  The quality/percentage in pins is greater than chains since 
pins and bracelets don't need the strength which chains do for wearing 
durability.

Stan Doore

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Martin Vlietstra 
  To: U.S. Metric Association 
  Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 11:29 PM
  Subject: [USMA:37797] Re: piecemeal metrication


  Unfortunately the world's markets work in troy ounces where precious metals 
are invovled.  One such market with which I have been involved is the newly 
opened Dubai Gold and Commodities Exchange - see http://www.dgcx.ae/.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: STANLEY DOORE 
    To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; U.S. Metric Association 
    Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:44 AM
    Subject: Re: [USMA:37782] Re: piecemeal metrication


    In some parts of the world, gold is sold by the gram and not by the ounce.  
Why not make grams (SI)  standard to avoid confusion so people will be able to 
understand how much they are actually buying?

    Stan Doore


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Martin Vlietstra 
      To: U.S. Metric Association 
      Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 4:44 PM
      Subject: [USMA:37782] Re: piecemeal metrication


      Mike,

      It is usual in Europe to measure fuel consumption in L/100 km.  If you 
regard a litre of fuel as a unit of currency, then this is directly analgous to 
buying apples at 75c/kg or gold at $624.45/troy oz etc.  Also, expressing fuel 
consumption that way round makes it easier to calculate the cost of fuel per 
km, the cost of tyres per km, the cost of tax and insurance per km (assuming a 
fixed annual amoutn of travelling) etc.

      Martin 
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Bill Hooper 
        To: U.S. Metric Association 
        Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 5:49 PM
        Subject: [USMA:37754] piecemeal metrication




        On 2007 Jan 16 , at 8:38 AM, Mike Millet wrote:
        That's why the best and smoothest transition in the US ... (will be) 
... rather from slow gradual economic and societal change. 


        "Slow" and "gradual" means difficult and expensive. During a long, slow 
transition, both the old and new systems would be in effect causing a great 
deal of confusion and extra work. Furthermore, when two systems are both in 
effect, people would tend to continue using the old, familiar system. They 
would not "gradually become familiar" with the new one.


        Mike goes on to say:
        give the US consumer some time ... (to become accustomed to dual 
labeling) ... then gradually introduce temperature and fuel and finally road 
signage changes. 


        It's difficult to change one things at a time because there are so many 
interconnections between units. If one changes fuel measurement at one time and 
road signage (including distance) at another time, when do you change fuel 
economy figures from miles per gallon to kilometres per litre (or litres per 
100 kilometres)? 


        Do you first change from miles per gallon to miles per litre (when 
litres are adopted) and then change from miles per litre to kilometres per 
litre at a later time (when kilometres are adopted). That would mean having to 
make TWO changes instead of just one for fuel economy alone (in addition to the 
necessary changes from gallons to litres and from miles to kilometres.


        Thus, instead of making a total of three changes at one time: 
           gal. to L, 
           mi. to km, 
           mi/gal to km/L 
        you'd have to make FOUR changes spread out over an extended period of 
time:
           gal. to L, 
           mi./gal. to mi./L, 
           mi. to km,
           mi./L to km/L.


        Another example would be cooking times based on oven temperature and 
amount of food. We have charts or directions in Fahrenheit and pounds; we will 
need to get to Celsius and kilograms.
        Do we make TWO changes, first from Fahrenheit+pounds to Celsius+pounds 
and later a second change from Celsius+pounds to Celsius+kilograms? How foolish 
when we can do it in one change if we convert all things simultaneously.


        There are other relationships that cause would cause problems, too. We 
know (actually I had to look up this first one) that there are 231 in^3 in a 
gallon and 1000 cm^3 in a litre. If we convert volumes from gallons to litres 
before we convert inches to centimetres, then in the interim (when we are using 
litres and inches), do we need to know how many cubic inches there are in a 
litre?  (The answer is 61.023 7441, by the way.) Again, MORE conversions are 
needed when changes are made in several steps instead of all at once.




        Regards,
        Bill Hooper
        Fernandina Beach, Florida, USA


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