You are still buying a metric product made by metric people and machines in 
metric countries.  Someone, even if it wasn't you, boycotted the American 
worker and had that product made in a metric country by metric workers.  Hidden 
metric is still metric.

Just like the floppy disks of a few years back.  They were a true metric 
product of 90 mm x 94 mm x 3.3 mm.  They were given a trade name in inches, but 
no matter how hard any one would try they could never make the product live up 
to its name.  If you buy a 2 m cable under a different name, it is still 2 m.  

Industry isn't going to waste its time and money to educate or convince 
Americans to use SI.  They will continue to close the doors and move the 
production to where the metric is.  Look around your house and see how many 
products you have that are made in the US and how many are made elsewhere.  You 
will find you have a lot more metric products then you realize.  You may have 
been tricked with false names applied, but the products are metric none the 
less.

Dan



----- Original Message ----
From: Mike Millet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 11:15:33 PM
Subject: [USMA:38189] Re: metric in the classroom

As much as I am in favor of buying metric products, the cold reality is in this 
day and time in the United States to not buy at least some non metric labelled 
products is almost completely impossible. I might like a 2m cable but the 
reality is that some places it's only six foot six inch label.  I'm more 
interested in talking to industry to get them to change rather than boycotting 
because even a million people boycotting one product will do nothing but 
stiffen resistence to metrication. Calm, reasoned argument and analysis will be 
the only thing that will induce industry to use SI. 

Mike


On 3/13/07, Daniel Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Except the result of their craftiness is that those who love the metric system 
don't buy American products.  They buy Asian and European.  They take jobs away 
from metric haters and give them happily to metric lovers.  They are lacking in 
intelligence because they don't see the damage they are doing to the US economy 
and the middle class American lifestyle.  The American middle class life style 
is no longer affordable to most Americans.  To have some semblance of it, there 
has to be a lot of borrowing.  "Brother, can you spare a dime"? 
 
If it is built in pounds and feet don't buy it, for it is obsolete.


----- Original Message ----
From: Remek Kocz < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>

Cc: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 6:30:49 PM
Subject: [USMA:38186] Re: metric in the classroom 

Those who hate the metric system hold very influential positions in lobby 
groups like the FMA.  They're crafty bunch that I would not accuse of lacking 
intelligence, or at least the smarts to outwit the pro-metric crowd.  

Remek


On 3/13/07, Daniel Jackson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Those who hated the metric system then are most likely working as Wal-Mart 
clerks, Burger flippers, janitors or any of the many jobs not requiring 
intelligence. 
 
Dan


----- Original Message ----
From: "Kim, Rich (ECY)" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:17:36 PM 
Subject: [USMA:38169] Re: metric in the classroom


I must have been luckily. My 8th grade math teacher was very "gung-ho"
about the metric system. He emphasized the simplicity of it. His
favorite question to the class was "who doesn't like the metric system?" 
About half the hands would go up. He would then reply, "then you'd
better not handle money because it's based on the metric system."

This was in 1968 (Tacoma, WA). He thought we'd be using it by now.  :( 

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of STANLEY DOORE
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 08:43 
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:38166] Re: metric in the classroom 

The test example Howard gave is an example of the deficiency in the 
education system.  They should have questions using the SI in science 
applications.

Stan Doore 




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Howard Ressel" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" < [email protected] >
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 8:59 AM
Subject: [USMA:38154] Re: metric in the classroom


> My 5th grade dau. was reviewing stuff for the NYS Statewide math test.

> They had English and metric questions mixed in. There were 
specifically 
> units of measurement questions not other question with English or
Metric 
> units. They asked questions about feet in yards and also centimeters
in a 
> meter, meters in a kilometer etc. but in a math format. For example, 
Sally 
> walked 200 m Bill walked 2 km, how far did they walk together.  Fact 
is 
> our kids the  will need to speak both languages.  At least They now
get 
> equal footing on tests (no pun intended). 
>
> Howard Ressel
> Project Design Engineer, Region 4
> (585) 272-3372
>
>>>> Daniel Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 03/10/07 11:37 PM >>> 
> May I inquire as to how they teach metric?  Do the students learn the 
> rules of SI like they would the rules of grammar and spelling?  Do
they 
> learn it practically, or do they learn it as a conversion to/from 
> non-metric (FFU)?  How they learn it will influence how well they
learn it 
> and how much they will use it in the real world.
>
>
>





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