Dan et al:

The SI can be used in classes other than science to help students understand 
the real world and the marketplace.  Only when the US Government decides to 
allow metric to be the predominate system will this occur.  People shouldn't be 
forces to learn something they won't find in the marketplace and every day 
life.  It's counterproductive.   This doesn't preclude using the SI in classes 
other than science.  The SI is used in science and technology now in the US.

Regards,  Stan Doore




  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Daniel Jackson 
  To: U.S. Metric Association 
  Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 6:18 PM
  Subject: [USMA:38217] Re: Is the U.S. customary system easier to use than the 
metric system?


  Not only taught, but used.  SI can be taught as part of the science classes, 
but it must be used in ALL classes.  Students should also be taught to avoid 
using FFU as it really isn't a system.  How well they can function in SI will 
determine whether they have real jobs in the future or whether they will be 
getting their meals from the soup kitchen.



   
  ----- Original Message ----
  From: STANLEY DOORE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
  Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:00:57 AM
  Subject: Re: [USMA:38203] Re: Is the U.S. customary system easier to use than 
the metric system?


  Dan et al:
  It doesn't matter that the public doesn't know that cars are built to SI 
specs.  It's important that scientists and engineers know and that's why the SI 
must be taught and used science classes in schools.  That's why our 
superintendent of schools here with 138,000 students required the SI to be 
taught and used in science classes and courses without the FFUs.
  Stan Doore



    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Daniel Jackson 
    To: U.S. Metric Association 
    Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 6:39 PM
    Subject: [USMA:38203] Re: Is the U.S. customary system easier to use than 
the metric system?





    ----- Original Message ----
    From: STANLEY DOORE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
    Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 1:22:16 PM
    Subject: [USMA:38202] Re: Is the U.S. customary system easier to use than 
the metric system?


    Going to the SI is more than a PR problem.

    If all manufacturing of products is converted to rationalized SI, people 
would use the products just like they do today.  They don't really care about 
the small differences in sizes so long as products have unit/prices.

    The main problem is to make the interfaces among hard goods like plumbing 
and building materials work.  The number of fasteners have been reduced from 
more than 100 in English units to less than 30 in metric.

    Products made in China, that once were made in the US with FFU fasteners 
are now made in China with metric fasteners.  As long as products continue to 
be made elsewhere, the material will be metric.


      All autos made in the US are made to metric specs and people really don't 
care because they buy and drive them.

    How many people are actually aware of that?  I'll bet most Americans still 
think their cars are made in FFU.  People don't normally remove any fasteners 
and check the threads for verification.  Go to your local auto parts store and 
check out how many still sell lots of FFU fasteners.  What are they used for?  

      However, training kids to design and engineer and to perform well in 
science, the SI is very important if the US is to compete worldwide.

    Except it isn't happening.  

    http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070314/economy.html?.v=12

    A record trade deficit for the 5-th year.  That tells you more metric goods 
are coming in and no FFU goods is going out.  The Asians and Europeans must be 
training their kids well.  Their economies continue to produce metric goods.  


    Stan Doore





      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Mike Millet 
      To: U.S. Metric Association 
      Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:36 PM
      Subject: [USMA:38200] Re: Is the U.S. customary system easier to use than 
the metric system?


      Interesting analogy Paul, Maybe you can tape SI unit posters in the 
Congressional bathrooms so people are forced to look at them everytime they 
make use of one :).  I hope you're keeping pressure on the little Congress 
critters to amend the FPLA as well. Maybe with enough slow cooking the 
proverbial metric lobster will be ready to eat by 2010. 

      Mike


      On 3/14/07, Paul Trusten, R.Ph. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
        HUH? Has USMA's PR Director lost his freaking mind?

        A few words from Satan's lawyer.

        SI has a big PR problem. Yes,it is a better measurement system. But, 
really--to
        most Americans, does "better" mean "easier?" 

        A table of customary unit values reads like a nursery rhyme. Twelve 
inches to
        the foot. Three feet to the yard. Yes, at 5280 feet to the mile, it gets
        cumbersome, but I think most people don't seem to have to deal with the 
5280. 
        They just may not care about decimal, about "better." Leave well enough 
alone,
        they'd say. Or, to quote my Dad on metric, "I just couldn't be 
bothered." The
        nursery rhyme suffices. It has sufficed for two centuries. 

        Efficient mathematical manipulation, metrological coherency, a true 
standard of
        measurement? I can hear the refrain coming from those who are far, far 
away
        from this forum: "Who gives a f---?"

        So, it comes down to leadership, society, industry, and, as Australian 
officials
        described, the need for a technical change in measurement practices. 
With regard
        to measurement, it is a matter of the U.S. maturing. Just this morning, 
I was 
        talking to a friend about his daughter finishing her potty-training. 
This vast
        and complex nation, the nation put to melody in Dvorak's Ninth Symphony 
"For
        The New World," for all its progress, still has metrological toilet 
training to 
        do. The path to measurement maturity is going to be a challenging one. 
We are
        going to have to sell the "easier" of SI. The good news is, I think we 
can do
        it, and I think we shall do it.





        --
        Paul Trusten, R.Ph.
        Public Relations Director
        U.S. Metric Association, Inc.
        Phone (432)528-7724
        www.metric.org
        3609 Caldera Boulevard, Apartment 122
        Midland TX 79707-2872 USA 
        mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        http://home.grandecom.net/~trusten






      -- 
      "The boy is dangerous, they all sense it why can't you?" 




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