Are you sure the UK setting includes Imperial gallons? They've sold gasoline
by the liter for years.

Bill Potts
Roseville, CA
http://metric1.org [SI Navigator--approaching 100,000 hits] 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Michael Palumbo
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 08:16
To: U.S. Metric Association
Cc: 'U.S. Metric Association'
Subject: [USMA:39520] Re: Metric & the new Mini Cooper

Surprisingly not.  My 2004 VW R32 has the capability of displaying metric
units, but they have no end-user exposed interface for switching the units
in your car.  You have to use a dealership diagnostic tool
(VAS5150) or a home diag tool (VAGCOM, etc.) to change it.

They tied all preferences into the car's country code, so if you set your
car as being in the US, you get a 12-hour clock, miles, Fahrenheit, and
gallons.  Only the temperature can be switched with an obscure button key
press.  Set it to Canada or EU, 24-hour clock, kilometres, Celsius, litres.
UK, 24-hour, Celsius, miles, imperial gallons.

It's a very weird system and not at all user-friendly.  And like I said, my
2002 Mini had a similar system, you could only switch the temperature.

-Mike

Martin Vlietstra wrote:
> I would have thought that every North American car that had a digital 
> display would have this sort of facility, plus the ability to display 
> text in English, French or Spanish.  Many cars in the European market 
> have the facility to display text is a dozen or so different languages.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Michael Palumbo
> Sent: 04 October 2007 15:07
> To: U.S. Metric Association
> Subject: [USMA:39518] Metric & the new Mini Cooper
> 
> All,
> 
> I traded in my 2002 Mini Cooper this past weekend for a new 2007 Mini 
> Cooper.  The 02 model had a centrally mounted speedometer that was 
> listed in both miles & kilometres, but was otherwise entirely 
> customary units.  Fuel efficiency was always listed in miles per 
> gallon, range was listed in miles, and temperature was in Fahrenheit 
> (at least the latter could be changed to Celsius by holding in a 
> combination of buttons every time you started the car).
> 
> When I went to the dealership to look at the 07 model, the first thing 
> I noticed (and commented on to the salesman) was that the speedometer 
> was only listed in miles, they removed the secondary ring for km/h.  I 
> was apparently the first person to ever mention that.  However, I was 
> quickly appeased when he showed me the new in-car computer.
> 
> Press just one button, and you're taken to the configuration menu.  
> From there, you can set every single variable in the car to metric
standards.
>   Range in kilos, speed in km/h, temperature in Celsius, fuel 
> efficiency in L/100 km, and if you prefer, time on a 24-hour clock.  
> You can even get a secondary digital speed display that works in km/h.
> 
> I've attached a picture of the tachometer that's mounted above the 
> steering column; this is where the relevant information is shown to 
> the driver.  Note the larger digital speed display at the top, with 
> temperature, current km, and trip km below that.
> 
> It's so nice to see a car manufacturer make this easy to switch, 
> without going through hidden menus, obscure button combinations, or 
> requiring a dealership diagnostic tool.
> 
> I'm very pleased with this, if I could just find out how to get rid of 
> that accursed MPH ring in the middle, I'd be all set!  By the way, it 
> handles splendidly and so far uses 5.6 L/100 km (or 17.8 km/L if you 
> prefer distance per volume).  Excellent!
> 
> Cheers,
> Mike

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