Stephen: That would be most interesting and enlightening info to get from you. Thanks for offering to take note of it and share it with us.
And have a great weekend! :-) Best regards, Ezra -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Stephen Humphreys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Those that spring to mind without thinking too deeply (it *is* a Friday > afternoon, after all): > > Imperial: inches, feet, yards, lbs, pints, deg F, PSI, lb/ft, sq t, cu ft > Metric: Litres, Metres, Millimetres (tend to be the prefered unit of metric > length), (kilo)grammes, deg C, sq m, cu m > > Packed things (like paint, for example) tend to be metric whereas tools tend > to > be both/either and very descriptive things (like doors, for example) tend to > be > imperial. > > And to mix it up a bit more they can be different between stores. Something > that > American contributors might find funny - I bought some floor tiles for the > bathroom and they were labelled up and sold as 12" (1ft) square pieces but > then > priced by the square meter! > > I need to go to B&Q and other stores this weekend so I'll try to remember to > look for measurement related information (it's not what I'd normally do). > > I have a major project involving a total rebuild of our living room > (involving a > cinema projection system - it's a major project!) and although I'm useless at > actually carrying out any serious work myself I do need to choose the various > things that will be installed. > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [USMA:40141] Re: > Metric epoxyDate: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:21:16 -0800 > > > > Stephen: > > Can you give us a feel of the mix of units used (and a sense of the > preponderance of SI vs Imperial)? > > Thanks, > Ezra > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephen Humphreys > To: U.S. Metric Association > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 3:14 AM > Subject: [USMA:40139] Re: Metric epoxy > I think you know that Commercial, Public Health, Public Safety and Public > Administration purposes is a very ambiguous clause (you could, indeed, put > road > signs in there for example). A quick look round B&Q (the UK's biggest DIY > store) > will show you the mix of units used > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: [USMA:40111] Re: Metric epoxyDate: Thu, 17 Jan > 2008 18:49:54 +0000 > > > > > > > > Steve, > > UK law (Units of Measurement Regulation 1986) catalogues the units that may > be > used for Commercial, Public Health, Public Safety and Public Administration > purposes. If there is a public safety or public health factor involved in > the > use of the epoxy or if it is to be used by any public authority, then any > units > that define the limitations for the use the epoxy must be in the units of > measure in the catalogue. > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Stephen HumphreysSent: 17 January 2008 10:27To: U.S. Metric > AssociationSubject: > [USMA:40111] Re: Metric epoxy > > You cannot buy items by the Fahrenheit - so you can use Fahrenheit on > packaging> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]> Subject: [USMA:40095] > Re: Metric epoxy> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:14:57 +0000> > If you had > Fahrenheit > only on a set of instructions, you might have your> hand smacked, but the > authorities are lax at doping that. I have seen some> Pizza boxes that > recommend > reheating their products to 400°. Not only do> British cookers not go that > high, > but if you did, you would end up cremating> the pizza.> > However, if as a > result of using °F and failing to declare the "F" part you> cause damage, > then > you could be liable in the civil court. There is> currently a case which is > likely to go to court in which a thermostat> failed, hot water fed back into > a > cold water tank, causing the tank to> weaken and then fail and then flooded > the > room below killing a baby.> Although it is unlikely in this case that misuse > of > units of measurement was> an issue, it would not be impossible for a similar > case to happen where the> underlying cause was a misunderstanding regarding > units of measure. In such> a case the manufacturer could face a manslaughter > charge. > > > -----Original Message-----> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf> Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 16 January 2008 19:18> To: U.S. Metric Association> Subject: > [USMA:40094] > Re: Metric epoxy> > Hmmm, is it actually legal to put Fahrenheit only on > packaging sold in the> UK?> Does anything regulate indications of > temperature?> > > Ezra> > -------------- Original message ----------------------> From: > > "Martin > Vlietstra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > Had they failed to put the "F" on the > packaging and tried to market the> > product in the UK, they would have had > the > Trades Description Act thrown> at> > them. Any UK resident would have every > right to assume Celsius and if> > boiling water caused a joint to fail when > the > user could justifiable> assume> > it to hold, the supplier would probably be > sued for damages.> > > > -----Original Message-----> > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf> > Of > Michael Palumbo> > Sent: 16 January 2008 17:53> > To: U.S. Metric > Association> > > Subject: [USMA:40088] Re: Metric epoxy> > > > Those mixed-measure packages > make > me cringe a bit.> > > > "2 Ton", "2500 PSI", "-60 F to 200 F", but then 25 mL > & > 25 g/L. > > Absolutely fascinating to me.> > > > At least they bothered to > put > the F after the temperature readings, I > > suppose.> > > > -Mike> > > > Nat > Hager III wrote:> > > Purchased at the local hardware store this morning, > here > in> south-central> > > PA. Nice simple package design.> > >> > > Nat > > > > > > > > > > > > > She said what? About who? Shameful celebrity quotes on Search Star! > > Everything in one place All new Windows Live! > _________________________________________________________________ > Telly addicts unite! > http://www.searchgamesbox.com/tvtown.shtml
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Those that spring to mind without thinking too deeply (it *is* a Friday afternoon, after all):
Imperial: inches, feet, yards, lbs, pints, deg F, PSI, lb/ft, sq t, cu ft
Metric: Litres, Metres, Millimetres (tend to be the prefered unit of metric length), (kilo)grammes, deg C, sq m, cu m
Packed things (like paint, for example) tend to be metric whereas tools tend to be both/either and very descriptive things (like doors, for example) tend to be imperial.
And to mix it up a bit more they can be different between stores. Something that American contributors might find funny - I bought some floor tiles for the bathroom and they were labelled up and sold as 12" (1ft) square pieces but then priced by the square meter!
I need to go to B&Q and other stores this weekend so I'll try to remember to look for measurement related information (it's not what I'd normally do).
I have a major project involving a total rebuild of our living room (involving a cinema projection system - it's a major project!) and although I'm useless at actually carrying out any serious work myself I do need to choose the various things that will be installed.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: [USMA:40141] Re: Metric epoxy
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:21:16 -0800
Stephen:Can you give us a feel of the mix of units used (and a sense of the preponderance of SI vs Imperial)?Thanks,Ezra----- Original Message -----From: Stephen HumphreysSent: Friday, January 18, 2008 3:14 AMSubject: [USMA:40139] Re: Metric epoxyI think you know that “Commercial, Public Health, Public Safety and Public Administration purposes” is a very ambiguous clause (you could, indeed, put road signs in there for example).
A quick look round B&Q (the UK's biggest DIY store) will show you the mix of units used
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [USMA:40111] Re: Metric epoxy
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:49:54 +0000
Steve,
UK law (Units of Measurement Regulation 1986) catalogues the units that may be used for “Commercial, Public Health, Public Safety and Public Administration purposes”. If there is a public safety or public health factor involved in the use of the epoxy or if it is to be used by any public authority, then any units that define the limitations for the use the epoxy must be in the units of measure in the catalogue.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Humphreys
Sent: 17 January 2008 10:27
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:40111] Re: Metric epoxy
You cannot buy items by the Fahrenheit - so you can use Fahrenheit on packaging
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [USMA:40095] Re: Metric epoxy
> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:14:57 +0000
>
> If you had Fahrenheit only on a set of instructions, you might have your
> hand smacked, but the authorities are lax at doping that. I have seen some
> Pizza boxes that recommend reheating their products to 400°. Not only do
> British cookers not go that high, but if you did, you would end up cremating
> the pizza.
>
> However, if as a result of using °F and failing to declare the "F" part you
> cause damage, then you could be liable in the civil court. There is
> currently a case which is likely to go to court in which a thermostat
> failed, hot water fed back into a cold water tank, causing the tank to
> weaken and then fail and then flooded the room below killing a baby.
> Although it is unlikely in this case that misuse of units of measurement was
> an issue, it would not be impossible for a similar case to happen where the
> underlying cause was a misunderstanding regarding units of measure. In such
> a case the manufacturer could face a manslaughter charge.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 16 January 2008 19:18
> To: U.S. Metric Association
> Subject: [USMA:40094] Re: Metric epoxy
>
> Hmmm, is it actually legal to put Fahrenheit only on packaging sold in the
> UK?
> Does anything regulate indications of temperature?
>
> Ezra
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Martin Vlietstra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Had they failed to put the "F" on the packaging and tried to market the
> > product in the UK, they would have had the Trades Description Act thrown
> at
> > them. Any UK resident would have every right to assume Celsius and if
> > boiling water caused a joint to fail when the user could justifiable
> assume
> > it to hold, the supplier would probably be sued for damages.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> > Of Michael Palumbo
> > Sent: 16 January 2008 17:53
> > To: U.S. Metric Association
> > Subject: [USMA:40088] Re: Metric epoxy
> >
> > Those mixed-measure packages make me cringe a bit.
> >
> > "2 Ton", "2500 PSI", "-60 F to 200 F", but then 25 mL & 25 g/L.
> > Absolutely fascinating to me.
> >
> > At least they bothered to put the F after the temperature readings, I
> > suppose.
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> > Nat Hager III wrote:
> > > Purchased at the local hardware store this morning, here in
> south-central
> > > PA. Nice simple package design.
> > >
> > > Nat
> > >
> >
>
>
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