I think that you are getting hung up with the concept that costs are always 
measured in terms of money.  Sure money is a useful comparator, but sometimes 
costs are best measured in other units, in this case litres of fuel.  

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of STANLEY DOORE
Sent: 29 January 2008 21:24
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:40300] Re: convenient numerical values

Trying to add an independent variable to the nominator in place of km in 
km/L adds to the confusion  and uncertainty since the cost of a L of fuel 
varies from one fuel station to another while distance is fixed to the L.
Stan Doore



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Martin Vlietstra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 1:26 AM
Subject: [USMA:40292] Re: convenient numerical values


Is it not valid to regard fuel as a currency - if I am comparing my car with 
your car, I can use £/km, you would use $/km, Han (in the Netherlands) would 
use €/km but if we used L/km (or L/100 km to generate numbers that are 
greater than 1), we could all compare the costs of our respective cars.

-----Original Message-----
From: STANLEY DOORE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 January 2008 22:20
To: Martin Vlietstra; 'U.S. Metric Association'
Subject: Re: [USMA:40269] Re: convenient numerical values

The fuel efficiency (km/L) is the governing factor.  Prices are given in
cost/L or cost per gallon in the US.  Therefore the cost per L determines
the best buy regardless of distance.  Also, L is in the denominator in both
cases.  The assumption that price is the same at different fuel stations is
not valid.
Stan Doore



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Martin Vlietstra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'U.S. Metric Association'"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 4:49 PM
Subject: RE: [USMA:40269] Re: convenient numerical values


> If one trader sells apples at $1.00/kg and another at $1.20/kg, which is
> the
> more expensive? The one with the larger number associated with it.
>
> Similarly, if one car uses 5 L/100km and another uses 6 L/100km, which is
> the more expensive? Again, the one with the larger number associated with
> it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of STANLEY DOORE
> Sent: 28 January 2008 18:55
> To: U.S. Metric Association
> Subject: [USMA:40269] Re: convenient numerical values
>
>    The use of km/L  is similar to the mpg used in the US.  It  avoids the
> need for a decimal point in L  or the use of  mL in the L/km expression..
>    If one runs out of gas and you know the distance you need to travel to
> the next  fuel station, it's very easy to know how many L are needed.
>
> Stan Doore
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Pierre Abbat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 7:11 AM
> Subject: [USMA:40258] Re: convenient numerical values
>
>
>> On Sunday 27 January 2008 20:37, Ziser, Jesse wrote:
>>
>>> I'd like to offer another possible example of violation of the rule of
>>> thousands.  I keep seeing L/100 km in fuel efficiency contexts.  I also
>>> occasionally see km/L but it appears to be rarer. km/L is clearly more
>>> "thousandy", and also has the debatable advantage of being "distance per
>>> volume" just like MPG.  Besides, "L/100 km" seems an awkward mouthful.
>>> Is
>>> this really the preferred unit?
>>>
>>> I'm thinking about getting metric mileage bumper stickers for my friends
>>> and family (most of whom I'm sure would enthusiastically accept and
>>> display
>>> them) and I was wondering if anyone had any other opinions on the km/L
>>> versus L/100 km issue.  I've been unable to find much about it online.
>>
>> At least two of us agreed, the last time this came up, that the unit of
>> fuel
>> consumption should be the liter per megameter, or microliter per meter
>> (or
>> cubic millimeter per meter if you wish to avoid "liter").
>>
>> As to methods of averaging, the harmonic mean is a bit more abstruse than
>> the
>> arithmetic mean, but it comes up all the time in electric circuits. Every
>> little kid should know some reciprocals and be able to estimate a
>> harmonic
>> mean.
>>
>> Pierre
>>
>

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