The Prius hybrids (I've had two - 2002 & 2005 models) are NOT particular as you say they are Brian. New battery technology is providing greater energy density (less mass per capacity). The next step will be a plug-in vehicle like the new Prius and the GM Volt. They will get 40 miles on a change; and, the ultracapacitor electrical storage now in research is expected to get about 150 miles on a charge. The new hybrid models should have a range of up to 1000 miles. Current range for a Prius with an eleven gallon tank is more than 500 miles on regular gasoline which costs a lot less than diesel.
   Stan Doore

----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian J White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 12:41 PM
Subject: [USMA:41128] Re: Prius vs. Insight


Current hybrids are a dead-end technology. Why pay to carry around all those heavy batteries when a turbodiesel gets as good or sometimes better fuel economy AND range?

Hybrids are very particular to how their driven too.... To the both of them, I say "no thanks". Of course, I always really liked both the Insight's and the new Prius' body styles. Especially the Insight. Always reminded me of a love child between a Citroen and a Honda CRX.

I've love to build a hot-rod Insight. Slick aero CRX-like body, very lightweight body panels. Remove the batteries, insert an Integra Type-R motor in it (about 250 hp) and that'd be quite a little 2-seat rocket. :)


Along those lines, I'm surprised that the Smart doesn't get better fuel economy.


At 02:04 2008-06-15, Harry Wyeth wrote:
I used to own a Honda Insight and now own a Prius. Yes, the reason the former is no longer sold is that it only seated two people, you could never carry a child due to the air bag, there was very little storage space, and it lost oomph going uphill on freeways. It was also a pain to get into.

I got usually 55 mpg (? L/100 km) on the Insight, and usually 50 mpg on the Prius, which has lots of room, is loaded with safety doodads, and is really a much better car. Its gasoline engine is 1.5 L vs the 3 banger 1.0 L on the Insight.

But the Insight was perfect on metric conversion, whereas the Prius is sadly lacking. On the Insight, a push of a button converted EVERYTHING to metric. Boom.

If you are thinking of buying a Prius--do it now.

HARRY WYETH



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