This discussion about how to present a standard way of efficiency has two 
components - technical and useful for public.  the discussion so far have 
evolved around the technical/scientific and not the practical use.  
    The bottom line is the pocketbook - what's the best way to minimize cost to 
the user.  
    xJ/km seems to fulfill this best since it relates to every day life for 
vehicles.  Then prices can be posted in a standard xJ/km so people can directly 
compare costs.  In effect that's what the designations of regular, high test 
(hi-energy), diesel grade fuels do for customers, and they give you, 
indirectly,  a bottom line dollar or Euro cost for efficiency to get you from 
one place to another.
    xJ/km then could also be used as a common denominator for the cost of 
moving people or freight by rail, bus, car, air, ship, etc. which people would 
understand.
    Stan Doore
 
    


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: J. Ward 
  To: U.S. Metric Association 
  Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 12:00 AM
  Subject: [USMA:41392] Newton for automobile efficiency


  Perhaps newtons could be useful for energy consumption of automobiles.  It 
would be a way to compare vehicles with different technologies, such as 
gasoline, diesel, electric, hydrogen, etc.  I've seen electric vehicles 
advertised with their "efficiency" expressed in miles per gallon.  I assume 
this is calculated by considering the chemical potential energy of gasoline if 
burned in oxygen.  It seems sad to start with a motor whose mechanical and 
electrical powers are measured in kilowatts, with batteries supplying 
electricity measured in amperes and volts, and then to bastardize these 
standard units into units of equivalent gallons of gasoline.  The results are 
also misleading since the efficiency of the power generation were not taken 
into account, e.g., how much coal was used to drive a certain distance?  
Anyway, I would prefer to use newtons over generically measuring energy in 
units of gallons of gasoline.  Reminiscent of the dreaded BOE....

  J.

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