On 2008/07/12, at 7:46 PM, STANLEY DOORE wrote:
This discussion about how to present a standard way of efficiency has two components - technical and useful for public. the discussion so far have evolved around the technical/scientific and not the practical use. The bottom line is the pocketbook - what's the best way to minimize cost to the user. xJ/km seems to fulfill this best since it relates to every day life for vehicles. Then prices can be posted in a standard xJ/km so people can directly compare costs. In effect that's what the designations of regular, high test (hi-energy), diesel grade fuels do for customers, and they give you, indirectly, a bottom line dollar or Euro cost for efficiency to get you from one place to another. xJ/km then could also be used as a common denominator for the cost of moving people or freight by rail, bus, car, air, ship, etc. which people would understand.
    Stan Doore


Dear Stan and All,

Using the figures from http://www.bwl.admin.ch/themen/00509/00528/index.html?lang=en it follows that walking at a comfortable speed of 4 kilometres per hour would require using energy at a rate of 150 kilojoules per kilometre.

I think that I would be more comfortable if this was expressed as 150 joules per metre. This would meet a number of conditions:

1 It would comply with the ISO SI Guide (English Edition 2 2008) rule (page 10) that:
                Prefixes in the denominator should preferably be avoided.

2       It also uses the ISO SI Guide rule (page 10) that
The prefix (for the numerator) should generally be chosen so that the numerical value will be between 0,1 and 1000, …'

3 Far less importantly, it complies with my suggestion that you can make calculations easier, and communication much better, if you choose SI prefixes and units so that the range of values likely to be used with that prefix/unit combination will fall into the range of whole numbers without common or vulgar fractions and without decimals (See: http://www.metricationmatters.com/docs/WholeNumberRule.pdf ).

        Some other approximate values (to compare with walking) are:
        
        Cycling           80 joules per metre
        Walking                 150 joules per metre
        Jogging         270 joules per metre

But note that some human activities take much more energy

        Swimming                60 000 joules per metre

For motor transport (numerical factors from http://bioenergy.ornl.gov/papers/misc/energy_conv.html )

        Motor bike      150 joules per metre
        Car                     300 joules per metre
        Truck           600 joules per metre

Cheers,

Pat Naughtin

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