The comment on trolley coach weights I sent a couple of days ago - here's from another retired driver.
Carleton From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry G Smith Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 22:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SFMuniHistory] MUNI TROLLEY COACH WEIGHTS Hi Bob, Having been in engineering design drafting for years, I worked in both metric and that archaic system based on the length of a long gone king's foot and hand me the card please- It's METRIC hands down with no doubt!! LONG LIVE METRIC!! Barry "Barri" S. On 8/29/08, Bob Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jeez, I've been in Oz on metric stuff so long I had to convert it to kg and tonnes before I could comprehend it. Thanks, Art. RT Murphy ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [SFMuniHistory] MUNI TROLLEY COACH WEIGHTS Hello All!! According the the "Schedule of Rolling Stock" dated June of 1958, MUNI's Trolley Coaches weighed as follows, in pounds: MH 526 & 528-549 = 17,920 MH 550-569 = 18,500 TWIN 570-659 = 18,560 MH 660-739 = 18,500 MH 740-789 = 18,960 MH 790-849 = 18,750 SLCC 850-889 = 20,529 I don't have the Flyer TC weights handy. Obviously, the St. Louis coaches were the heaviest of the original TC fleet. I suspect that the current standard ETI's may be heavier because of the huge battery packs they carry around. It's very interesting that the "Operator's Manual" for the ETI's gives height, length, width, overhang, ground clearance, turning radius, etc. - but does NOT give the weight of the coach!! Does anyone have the ETI weight?? Art -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Bob Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:isedit%40gcom.net.au> > > I never found a big St Louis with power steering. > > Perhaps the reason their steering was particularly bad was that the steering box > ratio might have been set up for power steering. > > I drove AECs with manual steering in Melbourne for years and they weighed 8t and > their steering was much lighter. I vaguely remember the St Louis weighing 11 > short tons. > > And the Marmons were quite acceptable and their weights must have been fairly > close to that of the St Louies. > > RT Murphy No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/> Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.11/1639 - Release Date: 8/28/2008 7:39 AM -- Barry G. 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