Montgomery County Public Schools (MCPS) in Maryland teaches and uses the SI 
in K-12 science classes and courses in its schools.  The MCPS has about 138,00 
students.
    The MCPS started this a few years ago at my suggestion with great 
cooperation from  Superintendent of Schools, Dr. Jerry Weast.  Dr. Weast since 
has told me on a couple occasions that he is committed to it.  
    The Rotary Club of Rockville  gives a chart of the SI Units along with a 
Student Dictionary to each third grade student in the City of Rockville MD each 
year.  The USMA has SI Unit charts available.
    Stan Doore

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stephen Humphreys 
  To: U.S. Metric Association 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 4:13 PM
  Subject: [USMA:41999] RE: Americans may not even know what "the metric 
system" is


  Apologies for the triplicate response - my internet connection seemed to have 
a fit or something.


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  Subject: [USMA:41996] RE: Americans may not even know what "the metric 
system" is
  Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:07:33 +0000

  Thanks for the various responses.
  Perhaps this is linked to why so few Americans have passports.
  Also could it vary wildly from state to state perhaps?


  In the UK we're taught metric in priority to imperial at school (not far off 
the USA I would have thought) but in 'real life' the 'street language', if you 
will, is broadly imperial.  And you know that metric is *even illegal* on UK 
signs (with exceptions) yet I'd be surprised if anyone did not know what 'the 
metric system' meant here, as a term.  Perhaps I'm being naive because of my 
interest in the subject - or perhaps the bad press makes people aware - I'm not 
sure.


  Thanks for the insight though.




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  Subject: [USMA:41989] Americans may not even know what "the metric system" is
  Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:53:59 -0600


  Steve, unfortunately, I believe that Mike is quite right.   As a practical 
subject, SI is not taught to U.S. students from a young age.  Perhaps some 
Australians on our list can describe what measurement was like in that country 
before the 1970s, but I would guess the U.S. of 2008 is a lot like 1960s 
Australia.  The use of meters, liters, and kilometers  is practically nil.  
Bridge clearances are posted in feet and inches. Gasoline (petrol) is sold 
exclusively by the U.S. gallon (about 3.8 L) .  Except for the few metric 
examples on USMA's  Road SignWeb page (see 
http://lamar.colostate.edu/~hillger/signs/) , almost all the distance indicator 
signs in America are denominated in miles (1 mile ~= 1.6 km).  As Pat Naughtin 
has said many times, metric in America is hidden.  Where it is used in 
manufacturing, it is "dumbed down" to customary units for the consuming public. 
Attached is a classic example that I just received from USMA Webmaster Don 
Hillger, who describes it as follows: 

  "I'm sure this is a case where a product is hard filled to 500 grams, then 
given an ounce equivalent of 17.7 ounces, and the package designer was given 
that 17.7 ounces, and knowing that they need to put metric on the package as 
well, ends up with 501 grams as the equivalent!  Too bad."

  Yet, not knowing what the metric system is may not be a bar to its use. I 
asked my long-time German friend what people think of the International System 
of Units in Germany. She, a music teacher born and raised in Berlin, who speaks 
English and French as well as German,  replied, "What is the International 
System of Units?" 

  Paul T.


  . 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Stephen Humphreys 
    To: U.S. Metric Association 
    Sent: 17 November, 2008 10:20
    Subject: [USMA:41985] Re: Obama and metric (continued)


    I'm somewhat surprised at one of the statements here.

    Is that really the case that a lot of people in the USA don't even *know* 
what the metric system is?

    I'd argue that in the UK the metric system has not really 'caught on' at 
all in regards to day to day speech etc but I would never suggest that people 
here didn't even know what the term 'metric system' means (possibly blanks at 
'SI' but certainly not 'metric').

    It seems odd with liter bottles and meters in 'track and field' sports etc 
that the very term 'metric' is relatively unknown.

    Steve
     



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    Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:02:14 -0700
    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: [USMA:41984] Re: Obama and metric (continued)

    I to added my support for the proposal and convinced several in my 
university classes to do the same :). I do wonder a bit even if we get a metric 
America or start going down that road how long it'll take to re-educate people. 
I was talking to a couple customers from Malaysia and Germany and the UK the 
other day and we were all agreeing that we hope that Obama does push this 
change because it makes sense.  The two high school and college age cashiers 
that were helping out then stopped and got blank looks on their faces and asked 
what the metric system was.  I explained it was liters and meters and all those 
measurements and they all got kind of a sour grapes look and complained about 
having to learn another system that made no sense and was "annoying" :). The 
nice German lady assured them that once they got used to it they'd come to like 
it.

    It wouldn't have been so bad except one of the cashiers is majoring in some 
form of engineering and hadn't been exposed to SI yet.

    Still, we can but hope :)

    Mike


    On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Michael Palumbo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

      An update: we are now ranked 6th (!) with 3865 votes, nearly 1400 above 
the next item, and only several hundred from 5th & 4th places.  Excellent!

      -Mike 


      Paul Trusten wrote:

        I have spent the day searching the word sequence "Obama metric system" 
online, and I must conclude that, even if Mr. Obama hasn't touched the subject 
publicly yet, his supporters sure have. Many of them appear to be enthusiastic 
about metrication, and are hopeful that the new president will advocate it. 
        Also, as of this writing, Bill Potts' contribution to 
http:.//obamacto.org maintains eighth place on this list of ideas for Obama's 
Chief Technology Officer to pursue. 

        Paul Trusten, R.Ph.
        Public Relations Director
        U.S. Metric Association, Inc.
        www.metric.org    3609 Caldera Blvd. Apt. 122
        Midland TX 79707-2872 US
        +1(432)528-7724
        [EMAIL PROTECTED]

         






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