Sorry, this was supposed to go to the list, not just Mr. Trusten.

Anyway, that sounds like a great plan, sort of like Decimal Day in England when 
they switched over to a decimal system of currency.

However I have a question. How long would the signs be covered? It couldn't be 
for a long period of time because people still need to see where they're going. 
Actually, Mr. Naughtin, how did they do this in Australia? How long were the 
signs covered?

--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Paul Trusten <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Paul Trusten <[email protected]>
Subject: [USMA:42333] highway metrication is metrication in microcosm
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 5:31 PM

If U.S. road signs are to be metricated, then, a coordinated, national plan
must be followed, such as in the following order:

1)the American PEOPLE must be metricated; that is, children must learn metric
in school, and adults must learn metric by a variety of methods: classes,
seminars, public service announcements, all with the total backing of federal,
state, and local governments and industry leaders.  We can't go metric in a
vacuum.

2)  vehicle odometers and speedometers must be manufactured to be metric or
metric-capable, and these changes recognized by law and regulation (the status
of older, WOMBAT cars needs to be factored in); all state DOTs are by necessity
involved in this, e.g.., motor vehicle measurement standards must become metric,
such as vehicle titles recording odometer readings in kilometers; vehicle weight
must be recorded in, and legally based upon, kilograms).

3) metric road signs are prepared and erected, but covered over until
"m-Day" (perhaps President Obama will include the erection of these
new metric road signs as part of his national work program)

4) "m-Day" is set (the single day of unveiling metric road sign on
the highways nationwide)

5) "m-only Day" - date must be established beyond which the
automakers will manufacture vehicles with metric measuring equipment only, so
future vehicles could not be accidentally switched back to the old unit readout




----- Original Message ----- From: "Victor Jockin"
<[email protected]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
Sent: 13 January, 2009 00:32
Subject: [USMA:42329] Re: Change-over period to the metric system & the
aviation industry.


> 
> Re: pipes and plywood, I would rate the relative importance of areas to
switch in the following way:
> 
> Road Signs: 85%
> Consumer Products: 7%
> Temperatures: 7%
> Industrial, Construction, Manufacturing, Engineering, Architecture, etc.:
1%
> 
> If road signs were converted, it would tip the scales and everything else
that matters would, eventually but surely, fall into place.  For example,
I'm trying to get NY Times science reporters to not convert NASAs metric
distances to US measures.  Would they even think about doing that were the road
signs in metric?  Would USGS keep showing elevations and distances in feet and
miles?  Road signs are the cornerstone of US traditional measures in this
country, and if we knock that out, we win the war.
> 
> On the other hand, would anyone who's not an aviation engineer even
know what units Boeing uses to specify parts?  If everything the public saw was
metric, would or should the public even care?  (Yes, there may be a business
case for one way or the other, but a lot of business decisions are dealt with
out of public view, as this one should be, as far as I'm concerned).
> 
> To me our cause for hope is this:  Provided a clause can be slipped into
some bill negating the ban on using public funds for metric signs, the whole
battle (i.e., road signs, and the full conversion it would engender) can be won
through the actions of one enlightened President, who could simply direct the
DOT to change the signs (here we can blame Ford and Carter).  All Congress would
need to do is decline to block such an action.
> 
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Pierre Abbat" <[email protected]>
> Sent: 01/12/2009 9:39 PM
> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [USMA:42328] Re: Change-over period to the metric system &
the aviation industry.
> 
>> 
>> On Monday 12 January 2009 15:58:06 Bill Hooper wrote:
>>> Some things would take longer because of durable goods that it are
too
>>> expensive just to throw out because it is not metric; think
"my
>>> house". You're not going to tear down your house that was
built to
>>> olde English standards just because you can only get metric sized
>>> sheets of wallboard or plywood. Manufacturers will need to make,
and
>>> suppliers will need to sell, some olde English sizes of building
>>> materials for some years so that old, pre-metric homes can be kept
in
>>> good repair. The critical part of this is to persuade the builders
and
>>> suppliers of NEW construction to begin using metric sizes.
>> 
>> Another example, which I thought about during my hydrology class, is
storm
>> sewer drainpipes. I think the correct solution for that is to
designate one
>> pipe company (there are few) to make only Renard number sized pipes in
>> metric, require all new pipe runs to be done in such sizes, and let
the other
>> companies metricate when they decide to. Existing pipe runs may be
repaired
>> with inch-sized pipes.
>> 
>> Pierre
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 




      

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