Don:
I'd rather not. This subject is very specific and full of exceptions, trade 
names, and new developments. To help, here is an attachment, presented on this 
forum before, that hints at the complexity of the issue. Working with 
experienced plumbers in my house projects I was amazed talking to them how 
little they new about the pipe/tube product they had in their hands. 

There used to be a respectable trade - called the pipe fitters - that hardly 
exists today. At least I do not know of any parent that would have their child 
training for that formally. The existence of the many nominal inches blurs the 
picture, as is the fact that the metric world uses some of them also. Parallel 
with their hard metric sizes, that is. Some are inch, or nominal inch, soft 
converted sizes designated in mm or in symbols like "G", or in the name of the 
company that brought it to the market. With "fittings" fitting, there is no 
need to know the dimensions. One justification for the mess.

I, or anyone, can look up the ANSI (ASTM, ASME, SAE,...), DIN, ISO, CEN, .... 
standards if they are free on line (many are not free), and get the details. I 
guarantee, a most boring task for the uninitiated. 
Stan
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Hillger, Don 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: 09 Jan 30, Friday 13:53
  Subject: FW: [USMA:42628] Copper Pipe Sizes


  Stan,

   

  Seems like you should know the answer to this?  Certainly there are standards 
for copper pipe in inch sizes, so that one company does not call it 1/2 inch 
and another 3/4 inch???  I understand that those sizes are only names, but 
certainly those names are standardized.  I believe, however, that 1/2 inch may 
mean different things for different kinds of pipe, steel vs. copper.  Hoping 
you might clarify, since I think Mike's last statement is wrong.

   

  Don

   

  From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Michael Payne
  Sent: Friday, 2009 January 30 10:50
  To: U.S. Metric Association
  Subject: [USMA:42628] Copper Pipe Sizes

   

  I promised to measure the copper pipes I have in my home, done with a 
micrometer at 20 C.

   

  3/4" pipe is 22,2 mm OD.  19,9 mm ID.

   

  1/2" pipe is 16,0 mm OD.  13,8 mm ID.

   

  1/4" pipe is 9,7 mm OD. 7,9 mm ID.

   

  Seems like the wall thickness on this pipe is very close to 1 mm. None of the 
inch sizes have any correlation to the actual "nominal" size. Allowing for 
manufacturing tolerances, these pipes are as near to whole millimeter sizes as 
is possible.

   

  When you go into a hardware store and try to find fitting that are labeled 
1/2"or 3/4", etc. The actual size bears no relationship to actual size which 
can be very frustrating if you measured something at home and expect this to 
match what they have in the store. A 3/4" fitting from one manufacturer will 
fit the 1/2" fitting from another manufacturer, so each company is choosing any 
definition they want for the named size.

   

  Mike Payne

   

   



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