Most cars have this feature.
A bit like most people won't fill their car up and calculate the fuel 
efficiency in metric or imperial on every trip to the petrol station unless 
they fear that something is terribly wrong and they believe that the figure 
they're getting is no where near the figure advertised or written in the guide 
book.

Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 10:20:16 -0800
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [USMA:42763] Re: Small item seen on TV
To: [email protected]; [email protected]



Stephen,
 
Does every car in the UK have this feature in it?  US cars don't, unless you 
own a luxury car.  The rest of us have to calculate it if want to know it.  
 
So, how does the car know how many gallons or liters were put into the tank at 
a fill-up in order to calculate correctly?  Do you key it in after the fill-up?
 
Jerry




From: Stephen Humphreys <[email protected]>
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2009 12:09:24 PM
Subject: [USMA:42763] Re: Small item seen on TV



There's a readout in the car that says XX.X mpg - which echo's how people, car 
magazines, adverts, TV shows (eg Top Gear) talk about car fuel efficiency
UK car docs tend to use cc



Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 08:54:26 -0800
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [USMA:42741] Re: Small item seen on TV
To: [email protected]; [email protected]





Stephen,
 
So how is economy usually calculated with mixed units?  Do most people have the 
formulas memorized or do they have them written down?  How do you calculate 
your fuel economy or do you bother at all?  
 
Why would you care about alienating yourself if all you are looking for is 
meaningful information on the economy of your car for your own knowledge?  
Unless you feel a need to broadcast the information.  But from what I've read 
from the emails,  even if you told everyone in metric units, they would still 
be understood.  So how would you be alienating yourself? 
 
What do you mean by cc and ci?  Are you talking about engine displacement?  
Presently all I ever hear is liters, never a mention of a cc or ci.  That is 
the standard.  I remember years ago motorcycles used cc, but I'm not sure if 
they still do or not.  Do you own a motorcycle as opposed to a car?
 
Jerry





From: Stephen Humphreys <[email protected]>
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2009 10:20:06 AM
Subject: [USMA:42741] Re: Small item seen on TV



People refer to economy in terms of mpg - so I'd be alienating myself if I 
converted it all to metric first.

A bit like if I converted my engine size from cc to ci.






Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:52:58 -0800
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [USMA:42542] Re: Small item seen on TV
To: [email protected]; [email protected]





Stephen,
 
Is there a simple formula to calculate mpg from the fuel amount in liters?  
Would it be just as easy to convert your miles to kilometers and figure it out 
completely in metric?  It shouldn't make a difference which way you go.
 
Maybe the best thing to do is to use the correct symbols as others noted.  They 
are consistent even if spelling isn't
 
Jerry





From: Stephen Humphreys <[email protected]>
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 12:58:04 PM
Subject: [USMA:42542] Re: Small item seen on TV



"I'm too lazy to bother to figure out my mpg.  I would be even less prone to 
want to do it if it meant an extra calculation step?  Do people ever do miles 
per litre/liter if that would make it simpler to compute?  Or is there a simple 
way to compute mpg when fuel is sold in litres/liters?"

You'd think that miles per litre would have taken off here - but it hasn't.  I 
guess there's a thought that there's consistency in keeping all units from one 
system.  Or something.

"I don't like this having to spell meter and liter two different ways.  Which 
should I use?"

I'd say the default was the American spelling - since this is an American 
board.  I tend to use 're' due to force of nature.

I think we know what we're all talking about - your best bet is to stick with 
liter/meter probably.




Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:40:10 -0800
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [USMA:42523] Re: Small item seen on TV
To: [email protected]; [email protected]





Stephen,
 
I'm too lazy to bother to figure out my mpg.  I would be even less prone to 
want to do it if it meant an extra calculation step?  Do people ever do miles 
per litre/liter if that would make it simpler to compute?  Or is there a simple 
way to compute mpg when fuel is sold in litres/liters?
 
I don't like this having to spell meter and liter two different ways.  Which 
should I use?
 
Jerry





From: Stephen Humphreys <[email protected]>
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 12:04:56 PM
Subject: [USMA:42523] Re: Small item seen on TV



Historical usage. 
Like 'mpg' even though we fill up with litres/liters.



Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:30:28 -0800
From: [email protected]
Subject: [USMA:42509] Re: Small item seen on TV
To: [email protected]





Martin,
 
So then psi is common in Britain.  Why?
 
Jerry





From: Martin Vlietstra <[email protected]>
To: Jeremiah MacGregor <[email protected]>; U.S. Metric 
Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:10:03 AM
Subject: RE: [USMA:42430] Re: Small item seen on TV





I have not checked my tyres – however the air supply at my local garage are 
calibrated in both bars and psi.
 




From: Jeremiah MacGregor [mailto: [email protected] ] 
Sent: 24 January 2009 15:24
To: Martin Vlietstra; U.S. Metric Association
Subject: Re: [USMA:42430] Re: Small item seen on TV
 


Martin,

 

My tires show kPa (psi).  Is this also the way it is in the world or only the 
US ?

 

Jerry

 




From: Martin Vlietstra <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] ; U.S. Metric Association 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 10:22:34 AM
Subject: RE: [USMA:42430] Re: Small item seen on TV

The most common units of measure for tyre pressures in Europe are bars or kPa.  
(100 kPa = 1 bar). 
 




From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Jeremiah MacGregor
Sent: 24 January 2009 14:59
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:42430] Re: Small item seen on TV
 


Harry,

 

Aren't they suppose to be in pascals or something along that line?

 

Jerry

 




From: Harry Wyeth < [email protected] >
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:39:58 PM
Subject: [USMA:42388] Small item seen on TV

A minor point of interest: on PBS's US broadcast of the BBC World News tonight, 
in a piece re the resumption of natural gas to Europe,  there was "footage" 
showing close-ups of presssure gauges on pipeline fixtures out in the snowy 
fields..  One showed pressure in kg/cm2, and the other in "bar".

HARRY
 WYETH
 
 



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