Stephen,

What does the size of the network have to do with it?  

I'm comparing drivers to drivers and the number of them is immaterial, unless 
you have more dunderheads in the UK who would have a hard time adjusting to 
anything different.  I don't think this is correct, but you sure are trying to 
give me that impression.

Jerry




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From: Stephen Humphreys <[email protected]>
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2009 1:36:55 PM
Subject: [USMA:42789] Re: REALLY using the SI

You are not comparing like-for-like.

The UK road network is massive (for such a small Island nation!).

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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:49:21 -0800
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [USMA:42751] Re: REALLY using the SI
To: [email protected]; [email protected]


Stephen,

One of the emails I received said that each of the countries that did change 
that there were predictions of carnage on the roads, yet when the signs changed 
there was no carnage and the predictions were in error.  

It is utter nonsense that road accidents would increase because a distance sign 
went from 50 miles to 80 km.  

If UK roads are the safest in the world then it has to be for other reasons, 
such defensive verses offensive driving techniques, drunk drivers, conditions 
of roads, weather, etc.  Foreign drivers on the roads who don't understand the 
signs and cause an accident does compromise the road safety and is a good 
reason to change.  

So how would a change of the numbers on the road signs change the safety record 
of UK roads? 
 

Jerry



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From: Stephen Humphreys <[email protected]>
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2009 11:06:52 AM
Subject: [USMA:42751] Re: REALLY using the SI

The UK roads are the safest in Europe (in fact I think they are the safest in 
the world).
I would hazzard a guess that changing all the signs to metric to accomodate a 
few foreign lorry drivers on the M25 would not be a compelling argument in this 
case.

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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:16:22 -0800
From: [email protected]
Subject: [USMA:42711] Re: REALLY using the SI
To: [email protected]


Martin,

Are you telling us that foreign drivers on UK roads get confused by the 
non-metric signage?  So what happens when they have an accident and someone is 
seriously hurt?  This would be a good reason to change if only to conform with 
the practice of your neighboring countries.  

Now what happens when UK drivers go to other countries and don't have English 
unit signs to guide them?  Does it cause accidents too?

Is it true that Ireland just changed their signs 4 years ago?  How are the 
people adapting?  Any problems?

Jerry




________________________________
From: Martin Vlietstra <[email protected]>
To: Jeremiah MacGregor <[email protected]>; U.S. Metric 
Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 12:07:51 PM
Subject: RE: [USMA:42694] Re: REALLY using the SI


Yes, most British people do, but I am not convinced that lorry drivers from 
abroad do.  I often drive a short section (about 4 km) of the M25 (the London 
ring road) and almost without fail I spot at least one lorry from abroad every 
time that I drive on that section of road.
 

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From:Jeremiah MacGregor [mailto: [email protected] ] 
Sent: 31 January 2009 16:41
To: [email protected]; U.S. Metric Association
Subject: Re: [USMA:42694] Re: REALLY using the SI
 
Martin,
 
Do most people know what they mean?  
 
Jerry
 

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From:Martin Vlietstra <[email protected]>
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 10:28:26 AM
Subject: [USMA:42694] Re: REALLY using the SI


Oops - my error

But for some inexplicable reason the British Department for Transport use
single and double apostrophes to represent feet and inches on road signs. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Pierre Abbat
Sent: 31 January 2009 11:50
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:42685] Re: REALLY using the SI


On Saturday 31 January 2009 03:56:26 Martin Vlietstra wrote:
> The single apostrophe is the symbol for seconds of arc.

No, the single prime means arc minutes. The double prime means arc seconds.

Pierre
 

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