----- Original Message ----- 
From: STANLEY DOORE 
To: Jeremiah MacGregor 
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [USMA:42650] Re: President Obama at George Mason University


Jerry:

    It's federal government policy to report in English units for US weather 
data in the US.  Specific metric is used when required by agencies such as the 
FAA and for international data exchange.
    When a decision is made to report only metric units, the NOAA will do so.  
The media could get together and request NOAA to make the change if there is 
across the board agreement.  The NOAA-NWS now works with two measurement 
systems for national and international and other reasons.
    It sure would help NOAA if only the SI were used.  In the case of 
emergencies during a crossover, such as for hurricanes, both SI and English 
units would be used for safety reasons.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jeremiah MacGregor 
  To: STANLEY DOORE 
  Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 7:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [USMA:42650] Re: President Obama at George Mason University


  Stan,

  Why should they do the changing?  Why not let the burden fall on the media?  
if the media had to do their own changes then it would get tiresome after a 
time and they would stop.  Don't you think so?

  Jerry




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  From: STANLEY DOORE <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 12:07:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [USMA:42650] Re: President Obama at George Mason University


  NOAA & the National Weather Service make the changes when required.
      Stan doore

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Jeremiah MacGregor 
    To: U.S. Metric Association 
    Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:10 PM
    Subject: [USMA:42650] Re: President Obama at George Mason University


    Stan,

    Who changes the metric information to English units prior to broadcasting?

    Jerry




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    From: STANLEY DOORE <[email protected]>
    To: [email protected]; U.S. Metric Association 
<[email protected]>
    Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:12:02 PM
    Subject: Re: [USMA:42436] Re: President Obama at George Mason University


        The NIST has already drafted changes in legislation to allow metric 
only labeling.  Federal agencies are left to make decisions regarding 
implementation of metric within their jurisdiction. 
        Weather instruments are being procured with metric readouts.  
Internally, weather forecasting has been metric for years  and it continues to 
be metric.  
        The media and the Congress need to decide when and how to present 
weather to the public in metric..   There is plenty of worldwide experience in 
this.
        Stan Doore

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Jeremiah MacGregor 
      To: U.S. Metric Association 
      Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 10:12 AM
      Subject: [USMA:42436] Re: President Obama at George Mason University


      Stan,

      What laws need to be changed?  I was under the impression that there are 
no laws in the US favoring any system.  So wouldn't it just have to be the 
choice of the producers of the products to use metric only?

      Jerry




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      From: STANLEY DOORE <[email protected]>
      To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
      Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:08:32 AM
      Subject: [USMA:42402] Re: President Obama at George Mason University


      Pat et al:

          Changing laws in the US to allow metric only labeling and requiring 
the Federal Government to buy metric products and to make conversion to the SI 
mandatory, such as weather reporting and road signs, needs to be the first 
step.  Until this is done, it won't happen.

      Stan Doore



        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Pat Naughtin 
        To: U.S. Metric Association 
        Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:39 AM
        Subject: [USMA:42401] President Obama at George Mason University


        Dear All, 


        I have just been reading the text of the speech that President Barack 
Obama presented at George Mason University on January 8. His forward thinking 
plans particularly struck me as plans that would all benefit enormously from 
being conducted using metric system measurements. Here is part of the text of 
President Obama's speech:
        That work begins with this plan – a plan I am confident will save or 
create at least three million jobs over the next few years. It is not just 
another public works program. It’s a plan that recognizes both the paradox and 
the promise of this moment – the fact that there are millions of Americans 
trying to find work, even as, all around the country, there is so much work to 
be done. That’s why we’ll invest in priorities like energy and education; 
health care and a new infrastructure that are necessary to keep us strong and 
competitive in the 21st century. That’s why the overwhelming majority of the 
jobs created will be in the private sector, while our plan will save the public 
sector jobs of teachers, cops, fire fighters and others who provide vital 
services.

        To finally spark the creation of a clean energy economy, we will double 
the production of alternative energy in the next three years. We will modernize 
more than 75% of federal buildings and improve the energy efficiency of two 
million American homes, saving consumers and taxpayers billions on our energy 
bills. In the process, we will put Americans to work in new jobs that pay well 
and can’t be outsourced – jobs building solar panels and wind turbines; 
constructing fuel-efficient cars and buildings; and developing the new energy 
technologies that will lead to even more jobs, more savings, and a cleaner, 
safer planet in the bargain.

        To improve the quality of our health care while lowering its cost, we 
will make the immediate investments necessary to ensure that within five years, 
all of America’s medical records are computerized. This will cut waste, 
eliminate red tape, and reduce the need to repeat expensive medical tests. But 
it just won’t save billions of dollars and thousands of jobs – it will save 
lives by reducing the deadly but preventable medical errors that pervade our 
health care system.

        To give our children the chance to live out their dreams in a world 
that’s never been more competitive, we will equip tens of thousands of schools, 
community colleges, and public universities with 21st century classrooms, labs, 
and libraries.. We’ll provide new computers, new technology, and new training 
for teachers so that students in Chicago and Boston can compete with kids in 
Beijing for the high-tech, high-wage jobs of the future.

        I couldn't help thinking that the metrication elephant had got into the 
room again without anyone noticing. See 
http://www.metricationmatters.com/docs/AMetricationElephant.pdf to see how 
metrication in the USA would help to implement President Obama's plans.

        Cheers,
        Pat Naughtin


        PO Box 305 Belmont 3216,
        Geelong, Australia
        Phone: 61 3 5241 2008


        Metric system consultant, writer, and speaker, Pat Naughtin, has helped 
thousands of people and hundreds of companies upgrade to the modern metric 
system smoothly, quickly, and so economically that they now save thousands each 
year when buying, processing, or selling for their businesses. Pat provides 
services and resources for many different trades, crafts, and professions for 
commercial, industrial and government metrication leaders in Asia, Europe, and 
in the USA. Pat's clients include the Australian Government, Google, NASA, 
NIST, and the metric associations of Canada, the UK, and the USA. See 
http://www.metricationmatters.com for more metrication information, contact Pat 
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