[USMA:43038] Re: Hot and dry

[brian]

Less capable?  Let's see that Verizon phone work in Germany or India.  :)

I love the fact that the iPhone is GSM/SIM capable.  Makes migrating and doing different things a lot easier.   I was pissed Verizon went CDMA back in the day....as was Vodafone, one of their primary investors.   Vodafone later put in a serious bid for AT&T Wireless....but they got scammed on that by Cingular.   

I'm sure they'll do a CDMA version of the iPhone someday.  There are rumors all over the place that they are still working with Verizon on a CDMA/EVDO version, etc.   Some say not for 5 years, some say it's already done.  

That being said, some say the radio in the phone already does CDMA and is easily hacked to do so.  Now getting Verizon to enable the ESN for use on their network is another problem altogether.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [USMA:43037] Re: Hot and dry
From: "Carleton MacDonald" <carlet...@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, February 16, 2009 11:41 am
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu>

I heard that Apple offered the iPhone to Verizon first, but Apple wanted too much of the profits so Verizon balked.  AT&T was more compliant.

 

I went on some web sites about a rumor that Apple would make a version of the iPhone for Verizon.  Everyone who commented wished they would do that, considering a combination of iPhone and Verizon Wireless to be the best of all worlds.  But AT&T, with the less-capable network, has probably locked them into an exclusivity arrangement.

 

Carleton

 

From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Millet
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 02:11
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:43028] Re: Hot and dry

 

I've seen some Sprint and former Alltel phones that do 24 hour format. Incidentally, my iPhone detected that my Macbook Pro's clock was set to 24 hour format and automatically synced it over to my phone when I set it up so I'm good. There is a way to change it back in the settings but I just left it as is since it's easier for me to understand 24 hour format.

Kind of off topic here but the local SIM card is a much cheaper option than getting roaming enabled. You basically become a subscriber of whatever carrier you happen to be on at the time and get a local number. Once I'm out of contract on my AT&T plan I will unlock my phone and just use it as my GSM phone for when I hopefully travel abroad.

It'll be much easier once all the carriers start migrating towards LTE and you can have one phone with just a few different frequencies world wide, which should happen sometime after 2010 or 2011. Or, knowing Verizon's corporate culture, when hell freezes over, whichever happens soonest.



Mike

On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Martin Vlietstra <vliets...@btinternet.com> wrote:

... or you could contact your ISM before coming to the UK and get roaming enabled on your US GSM number.

 

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From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of Carleton MacDonald
Sent: 15 February 2009 22:05

To: U.S. Metric Association

Subject: [USMA:43016] Re: Hot and dry

 

I had two older phones on Verizon – a Motorola Star-Tac and a Motorola 265.  They could both be set to 24-hr.  Then I got a Motorola KRZR, and found that Verizon had dumbed down the software and only 12-hr could be displayed.  I now use a BlackBerry Storm.   The software is controlled by BlackBerry and not Verizon so it shows 24-hr.  It not only works on CDMA but also on all four GSM bands (it has a SIM inside it too).  So the phone will work anywhere in the world, though if I'm overseas it will probably cost a bit.

 

I suspect if I were on a visit to the UK I could get a temporary SIM chip and put it in.

 

Carleton

 

From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of Nat Hager III
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 16:41

To: U.S. Metric Association

Subject: [USMA:43015] Re: Hot and dry

 

Bill,

 

You must have a GSM phone (ATT, T-Mo) since Verizon (CDMA) hardwires their handsets for 12 h only.  They can get away with that since their phones are only used in North America.

 

Nat

 

From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Potts
Sent: Sunday, 2009 February 15 13:54
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:43012] Re: Hot and dry

 

My wife and I have identical cell phones (Kyocera Marbl). Mine is set for 24 hours; hers is set for 12 hours. My only frustration (minor) is that I can't sent mine to yyyy-mm-dd format for the date.

 

Bill

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WFP Consulting
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http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]

 

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From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of STANLEY DOORE
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 03:07
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:42977] Re: Hot and dry

    I have an inexpensive (less than $20)  digital wrist watch which displays both 12 and 24 hour time.  Moreover, my cell phone allows two base time zones to be displayed on its face.  I have one set for 24-hour local time and the other set for UTC.  That way I'm compatible with Internet times.  It's great when I travel to different time zones and it avoids confusion.  And, it doesn't require throwing away older 12-hour clocks.

 

Stan Doore

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----- Original Message -----

From: Stephen Humphreys

To: U.S. Metric Association

Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 9:11 AM

Subject: [USMA:42970] Re: Hot and dry

 

That's quite interesting because now I think about it whenever I've stayed in a hotel in the UK I seem to remember them being 24h format.
 
Esp Hilton who have integrated the clock into the entertainment system.
 
Clocks bought from shops have a little light or dot for pm or have an LED for am/pm.
 
I guess some might allow you to switch to 24h format but I haven't seen any myself.  I'll have to check the Argos catalogue!

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From: neha...@dorsea.win.net
To: barkatf...@hotmail.com; usma@colostate.edu
Subject: RE: [USMA:42968] Re: Hot and dry
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:22:29 -0500

Seems I remember business/vacations in the UK with bedside clocks in *24h* format…

 

Nat

 

 

 

From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen Humphreys
Sent: Monday, 2009 February 09 4:52
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:42968] Re: Hot and dry

 

Used: On travel timetables (buses, trains, planes)
Not used: On road signs (for parking, bus lane period etc).  (And, of course, on TV, radio, bedside clocks etc)

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Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 16:17:20 -0800
From: jeremiahmacgre...@rocketmail.com
Subject: [USMA:42903] Re: Hot and dry
To: usma@colostate.edu

Martin,

 

Thanks.

 

Would you say the 24 hour clock is used in all other aspects of public life in the UK?  Where would I find it used and not used? 

 

Jerry 

 

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From: Martin Vlietstra <vliets...@btinternet.com>
To: U.S. Metric Association <usma@colostate.edu>
Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 1:06:57 AM
Subject: [USMA:42818] Re: Hot and dry

Jerry,

 

If you visit http://www.journeycheck.com/southwesttrains/ and browse, you will see that British railway timetables use the 24 hour clock.

 

 

 

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