Stores which offer product sales change unit-pricing in their computers and
usually change unit price shelf labels or substitute a separate large "Sale"
sign next to the product or over the shelf label. The computer unit-price
takes precedence at the cash register and the amount charged is shown on the
printed receipt.
Stan Doore
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeremiah MacGregor
To: STANLEY DOORE ; U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [USMA:43273] Re: discussion of Food Marketing Institute
objections to metric-only labeling option
Unit pricing may be "built in", but it is still a cost passed on to the
consumer. When you are competing in a tough market you lower your costs as
much as possible and thus things like unit price labels are not used. The
stores that sell goods at a lower cost because they have less frills do a
better business then those that try to be fancy. Obviously not having unit
price labels is not hurting the business in the stores I visit.
Another point is that unit price labels does not help you compare prices
between stores, just different brands in a store. In many cases a store will
offer a sale on a particular brand that makes the unit pricing ineffective.
Jerry
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From: STANLEY DOORE <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]; U.S. Metric Association
<[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 6:38:53 AM
Subject: Re: [USMA:43273] Re: discussion of Food Marketing Institute
objections to metric-only labeling option
According a national consumer association located in VA, unit pricing is most
important. It's the only way one can compare items accurately. In France,
cooks use mass rather than volume for flour and some other products because
compactness is directly related to density and the variation can change the end
product significantly.
When contents are in boxes, including tooth paste, many boxes are the
same size but have contents different in mass or volume.
Unit price labeling is part of built-in operational expense of stores.
Stan Doore
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeremiah MacGregor
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 6:30 PM
Subject: [USMA:43273] Re: discussion of Food Marketing Institute objections
to metric-only labeling option
I don't think most people even bother with unit pricing.. Some stores that
I visit don't even bother with it. It is obviously an extra expense that some
stores don't want to incur. Plus it would add cost to the product.
Jerry
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From: STANLEY DOORE <[email protected]>
To: Jeremiah MacGregor <[email protected]>; U.S. Metric
Association <[email protected]>
Cc: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:23:26 AM
Subject: Re: [USMA:43170] Re: discussion of Food Marketing Institute
objections to metric-only labeling option
No.
Unit pricing in whatever standard set of units is necessary so long as
unit pricing is uniform to avoid consumer misunderstanding.
If unit pricing remains in English units whereas packages are labeled
in only in metric, consumers may not trust the product or the store even if the
numbers are correct.
Stan Doore
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeremiah MacGregor
To: [email protected] ; U.S. Metric Association
Cc: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [USMA:43170] Re: discussion of Food Marketing Institute
objections to metric-only labeling option
Are you saying that unit pricing in English units would not protect the
consumer? Why does it have to be in metric units? What difference does it
make what units it is in as long as it is in one unit?
When you say metric only packaging are you referring to a move to rounded
metric sizes or are you referring to the change in the FPLA which would allow
metric only sizes even if they are not round?
Jerry
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From: STANLEY DOORE <[email protected]>
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Cc: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:45:13 PM
Subject: [USMA:43170] Re: discussion of Food Marketing Institute
objections to metric-only labeling option
Consumers want to know value and that can't be done by looking at
packages since manufacturers use deceptive packaging to disguise small
quantities in large packages.
Unit pricing in metric units only is the only way to protect consumers.
This absolutely necessary.
Metric only packaging will be a major step forward; however, it will not
help consumers making value purchases.
Stan Doore
----- Original Message -----
From: Remek Kocz
To: U.S. Metric Association
Cc: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 9:11 AM
Subject: [USMA:43133] Re: discussion of Food Marketing Institute
objections to metric-only labeling option
You may not have trouble shooting them down, but this is a situation
where logic and reason don't matter. You're up against people outwardly
hostile to metric, and they've got a lot of power. This probably requires a
different approach rather than just debunking their straw-dummy arguments
amongst ourselves. Perhaps writing each and every one of their members, many
of whom are international firms, may be of use.
Remek
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Jeremiah MacGregor
<[email protected]> wrote:
The FMI's excuses are so lame it really shouldn't take a big effort
to shoot them down. The USMA and NIST could easily counter their arguments..
So why aren't they?
Jerry
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From: Pierre Abbat <[email protected]>
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:33:39 AM
Subject: [USMA:43083] Re: discussion of Food Marketing Institute
objections to metric-only labeling option
FMI wrote:
>The majority of consumers do not understand metric measurements.
Consumers have had enough exposure to liter and half-liter bottles of
water
and olive oil, 750 ml bottles of wine and oil, and 2 l bottles of pop
to
understand what a liter is. Measuring cups have been graduated in
milliliters
for decades. Measuring devices in grams are not as common, but
nutritional
labels indicate fat, protein, and carbs in grams, and the kilogram is
easily
related to the liter of water. (The 28 mg discrepancy is within
bottling
tolerance.)
>Value comparison between similar products of different sizes
Products labeled in pounds are already also labeled in grams. The
consumer can
divide cents by grams in his head for both products (if he can divide
in his
head; if not, units don't matter).
Once I had a very hard decision between a 250 g package of fresh
strawberries
and a 283 g package of frozen strawberries. The unit prices were very
close,
and I walked back and forth several times before deciding on the
frozen.
I've seen comparisons I cannot make with the current system of
labeling. One
is a 400 g pack of açaí (4 pieces, 100 g each) versus a 473 ml tub of
açaí
sorbet. I know neither the density nor the fraction of açaí in the
sorbet.
Another is a dry pint of tomatoes versus a pound of tomatoes. The dry
pint is
labeled 551 ml, but when I weigh it it is nowhere near 551 g, more
like 300
or 330 g, and there are too few tomatoes for the density to be
well-defined.
I think that the dry pint and all its relatives should be abolished.
>result in package change sizes.
The proposed law doesn't require changing package sizes. It doesn't
even
require changing labels. What will probably happen is that anything
that's
round in grams will be labeled only in grams, and anything that's
round in
pounds will be labeled in both.
>and that will require changes in unit pricing labels.
Even a small store can take in $1000 in a day. $1000 spread over 50
weeks is a
trifle.
>as well as nutrition information and recipe programs.
Nutrition information is already in grams; packaging in round numbers
of grams
will make it easy to understand. Some packages currently have serving
sizes
and numbers of servings that don't match the package size. As to
recipes,
Latinos at least write recipes in metric, and would find it easier if
they
could buy tomatoes in grams.
Pierre
