I guessed correctly, but your sump is an oil pan here.
--- On Sun, 3/15/09, Stephen Humphreys <[email protected]> wrote:
> From: Stephen Humphreys <[email protected]>
> Subject: [USMA:43937] Re: Jerry's questions regarding "imperial" fuel &
> fish sales in the UK.
> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
> Date: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 6:54 PM
> It's a 15/16" bolt (the sump plug is essentially a
> bolt which you take out to drain the oil).
> When you say 'it already is a 24mm head' do you
> mean that the bolt I'm talking about is not 15/16"
> and I did not buy a 15/16" socket and the
> instructions/guides etc don't say to use 15/16"
> socket? I'm a little confused by what you mean.
>
> Folks - is 'sump plug' yet another word that fails
> the 'divided by the same language' thing? ie UK
> versus US english?
> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 15:46:35 -0700
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: [USMA:43932] Re: Jerry's questions regarding
> "imperial" fuel & fish sales in the UK.
> To: [email protected]
>
>
>
> The difference between 15/16 inches (=23.8125 mm) is 0.1875
> mm. This difference is equivalent to the upper end of the
> diameter of human hair. If the difference is spread evenly
> over the faces of the head, then we are talking about a
> difference of 94 µm. Definitely not enough to round the
> points.
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>
> The difference between 10 mm and 3/8 (9.5 mm) i could see
> causing a problem, but definitely not your example,
> especially since it already is a 24 mm head.
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> Jerry
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> From: Stephen Humphreys <[email protected]>
> To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 4:05:22 PM
> Subject: [USMA:43912] Re: Jerry's questions regarding
> "imperial" fuel & fish sales in the UK.
>
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>
> It's 15/16ths - I tried fitting 'close' other
> measures but it wont't work.
> The reason I tried it because buying one 15/16" socket
> for one sump plug is uneconomical. But I ended up buying one
> from Halfords because I did not want to risk rounding off
> the nut. The socket is marked 15/16" because
> that's the size of it - as is the sump plug. That is,
> 15/16". I carry both metric and imperial spanners so I
> never have to bodge a job just because of some odd idea of a
> measurement war extremity.
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> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:06:41 -0700
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [USMA:43837] Re: Jerry's questions
> regarding "imperial" fuel & fish sales in the
> UK.
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
>
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> I had no idea what a sump plug was, thinking it may have
> been a British term for spark plug. 15/16 sounds like an
> odd size and thus seems like an approximation for 24 mm.
>
> This web page on sump plugs is all metric which leads me to
> believe yours is too.
>
> http://faq.f650.com/FAQs/Sump_Plug_FAQ.htm
>
> This page says that both wrench sizes will work:
>
> http://faq.f650.com/GSFAQs/GS_Oil_Change_FAQ.htm
>
> I'm sure your instructions said 24 mm or 15/16 in and
> you omiited the part about the 24 mm.
>
> Jerry
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> From: Stephen Humphreys <[email protected]>
> To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:21:19 PM
> Subject: [USMA:43837] Re: Jerry's questions regarding
> "imperial" fuel & fish sales in the UK.
>
> It's a sump plug.
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> And it's 15/16ths (not 5/16ths).
>
>
> Does this help?
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> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:53:05 -0700
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: [USMA:43808] Re: Jerry's questions regarding
> "imperial" fuel & fish sales in the UK.
> To: [email protected]
>
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> 5/16 is 7.9375 mm. An 8 mm socket would fit and the less
> than 0.0625 mm difference would not be noticed. I have also
> seen 1/2 inch wrenches and sockets fit a 13 mm head even
> though the 1/2 inch is smaller then 13 mm. It would seem
> that the 1/2 inch sockets are really 13 mm ones in disguise.
>
> Thus I would not be surprised if a socket labeled as 5/16
> inches was really 8 mm in disguise.
>
> According to this thread:
>
> http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57707
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> Spark plugs are metric, so it would be a true 8 mm.
>
> You can even buy spark plug taps with a metric thread.
>
> Here is a whole set of spark plug taps, all metric:
>
> http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?item_ID=9721&group_ID=1154
>
> Or are you trying to tell us you still drive a model T
> which did use inch based spark plugs?
>
> Jerry
>
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> From: Stephen Humphreys <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 8:31:32 AM
> Subject: RE: [USMA:43788] Re: Jerry's questions
> regarding "imperial" fuel & fish sales in the
> UK.
>
> It would not work - you have to buy a 15/16ths socket as
> per instructions
>
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> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:39:49 -0700
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: [USMA:43788] Re: Jerry's questions regarding
> "imperial" fuel & fish sales in the UK.
> To: [email protected]
>
>
>
> Are you sure it isn't really 8 mm and you are just
> approximating it?
>
> Jerry
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> From: Stephen Humphreys <[email protected]>
> To: Jeremiah MacGregor
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 11:08:15 PM
> Subject: RE: [USMA:43759] Re: Jerry's questions
> regarding "imperial" fuel & fish sales in the
> UK.
>
> mixed
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> My sump plug is 15/16ths
>
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> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:03:06 -0700
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [USMA:43759] Re: Jerry's questions
> regarding "imperial" fuel & fish sales in the
> UK.
> To: [email protected]
>
>
>
> Then what units are cars made in if not metric units?
>
> Jerry
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> From: Stephen Humphreys <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:57:15 PM
> Subject: RE: [USMA:43759] Re: Jerry's questions
> regarding "imperial" fuel & fish sales in the
> UK...
>
> No because they're not
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> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:48:17 -0700
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: [USMA:43759] Re: Jerry's questions regarding
> "imperial" fuel & fish sales in the UK.
> To: [email protected]
>
>
>
> So do you discuss cars in metric since cars are only made
> in metric units all over the world?
>
> Jerry
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> From: Stephen Humphreys <[email protected]>
> To: U.S.. Metric Association <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:25:46 AM
> Subject: [USMA:43670] Re: Jerry's questions regarding
> "imperial" fuel & fish sales in the UK.
>
> Sounds like we have some car enthusiasts on the list :-D
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> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:37:31 -0700
> To: [email protected]
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: [USMA:43668] Re: Jerry's questions regarding
> "imperial" fuel & fish sales in the UK.
>
> Funny. All of my cars have been manual transmissions
> (including my Audi Allroad and my BMW 540i...both 6-speed
> manuals).
> It took me getting a British vehicle to have an automatic.
> :) (A Range Rover Classic I picked up for $500, fixed it
> up a little bit and have since put 16,000km on it since I
> bought it a year ago.) I wish it was a manual
> transmission, but they never imported manuals to the US.
>
> But, I have 7 other cars, and they are all manual
> transmissions....
>
>
>
> At 20:24 2009-03-10, Carleton MacDonald wrote:
>
> I’ve actually driven a manual transmission car most of my
> life: MG 1100, VW Beetle, two Rabbits, two Saab 900s (and
> two motorcycles mixed in). The car I have now (and have had
> since 2002), a 1999 Saab 9-5, is the first automatic I’ve
> ever owned.
>
> Metric related: Unlike most American cars, the km markings
> on the speedometer of the 9-5, inside the mile ones, are lit
> at night and can be read.
>
> Carleton
>
> From: [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen
> Humphreys
> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 05:50
> To: U.S. Metric Association
> Subject: [USMA:43627] Re: Jerry's questions regarding
> "imperial" fuel & fish sales in the UK.
>
> Congrats are due to you for mastering the
> use of a manual gearbox! I think that's more of an
> achievement than road placement (based upon most Americans
> driving Automatics).
>
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [USMA:43622] Re: Jerry's questions
> regarding "imperial" fuel & fish sales in the
> UK.
> > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:18:29 -0400
> >
> >
> > I remember the first time I rented a car in the UK.
> October 1982,
> > Edinburgh, Scotland, British Rail Waverley Station.
> >
> > Left my wife Susan at the bed and breakfast, took a
> bus downtown, went to
> > the station, to the Godfrey Davis office. A kind,
> pretty young woman (I was
> > young then too) had me fill out the paperwork then
> gave me the keys. I
> > thanked her, opened the door, got in, and sat down. On
> the left side.
> > Where's the steering wheel? Oh, right. Got out,
> closed the door, glanced
> > at the booth: she was
> inside, hand on her mouth, suppressing a laugh.
> > Walked round the back of the car, got in the right
> side, sat down, felt the
> > shift with my left hand, started the car, said a very
> significant Anglican
> > prayer, put the car in gear, and headed out, saying to
> myself, "Drive on the
> > left. Drive on the left. Drive on the left. Drive on
> the left ..." Headed
> > back to the bed and breakfast, scared to death. Picked
> up Susan, headed out
> > of town toward the bridge over the Firth of Forth.
> Stopped, took picture of
> > the famous railway bridge. Started up again, found
> myself making a left
> > turn to the right side of the intersecting road,
> corrected quickly, too
> > quickly, hit a stone kerb, blew out the left front
> tire, stopped to change
> > it.
> >
> > Somehow we got through the three days without hitting
> anything, and it even
> > included a distillery tour, a steam train ride, and a
> night
> in Glencoe,
> > where my ancestors got massacred in 1692.
> >
> > Carleton
> >
> > P.S. When we got back to San Francisco we went to the
> store and Susan
> > bought soup; I told her to put the Campbell's soup
> back on the shelf!
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> > Of Paul Trusten, R.Ph.
> > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 21:02
> > To: U.S. Metric Association
> > Cc: U.S. Metric Association
> > Subject: [USMA:43620] Re: Jerry's questions
> regarding "imperial" fuel & fish
> > sales in the UK.
> >
> >
> > Ah, but the rule of the road is in the eye of the
> beholder. Left-siders must
> > think the rest of the world has it backwards.
> >
> > Quoting Brian J
> White <[email protected]>:
> >
> >>
> >> I think you brits should also fix your cars and
> >> roads so you drive on the correct side of the
> road. But that's just me.
> > :)
> >>
> >>
> >> At 15:54 2009-03-09, Stephen Humphreys wrote:
> >>>Sorry  - I think you might have the wrong
> person.
> >>>I'm not anti-metric - I'm a
> pro-choicer.
> >>>
> >>>The most 'extreme' views I hold on the
> subject regards safety....
> >>>
> >>>I have always said and always been firm that:
> >>>
> >>>1) Road signs should stay imperialÂ
> >>>2) Medicines and chemist goods should always be
> metric
> >>>
> >>>Both of these relate to safety concerns.
> >>>
> >>>For most other things (in fact prob all) I
> >>>prefer the dual route or a flexible degree of
> choice.
> >>>
> >>>This may put me at odds with many on this list
> >>>but I'm always truthful and up front about
> it
> >>>and as many many have said it is healthy to
> have
> >>>a contrary view here for purposes of debate.
> >>>
> >>>With regards to the USA - I actually believe it
> >>>should be more metric than it is.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul Trusten, R.Ph.
> > Public Relations Director
> > U.S. Metric Association (USMA), Inc.
> > www.metric.org
> > 3609 Caldera Boulevard, Apartment 122
> > Midland TX 79707-2872 US
> > +1(432)528-7724
> > mailto:[email protected]
> >
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