May I remind people of a bit of maths:

A radian is the angle subtended by an arc of length X drawn along a curve of
radius X.
 
d/dx (sin(x)) = cos(x) if x is in radians.

Sin(x) = x - x^3/3! + x^5/5! - x^7/7! ...   where x is expressed in radians.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of James R. Frysinger
Sent: 23 March 2009 22:59
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:44083] Re: radians


Good job on the subject line, Bill; I often forget to do that.

I don't think that radians are going to go away in either of our 
lifetimes. It's one of the derived units that physicists and many 
engineers are fond of.

Most certainly I do not agree with "degree velocity" or "radian 
velocity". That confounds unit and quantity names, rather like saying 
"meter height" or "hertz frequency".

Jim

Bill Hooper wrote:
> 
> On  Mar 22 , at 2:47 PM, James R. Frysinger wrote:
> 
>> So if I say, "The motor is running at
>> 8600/s" what do I mean? Better to say, "The motor is running at a shaft
>> rotation rate of 8600/s" or "The motor is running at an angular velocity
>> of 8600 rad/s", whichever is the case. Of course those differ by a
>> factor of 2 pi.
> 
> I agree with this (above) and would further argue that, if we indeed do 
> insist on naming the measured rate by proper names like "rotation rate", 
> "angular velocity" etc. then it should be possible to see that rotations 
> are not units and the, correspondingly, neither are radians.
> 
> (Since degrees per second are also used for angular velocity, one would 
> need different names for these two things. I'd suggest "degree velocity" 
> and "radian velocity".)
> 
> Abandoning the practice (built firmly into SI) of treating the radian as 
> a unit would, in my opinion, be progress.
> 
> Regards,
> Bill Hooper
> Fernandina Beach, Florida, USA
> 
> PS And I remembered to change the subject on this as I go off on a
tangent.
> 
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