I disagree with the NIST in the case of kL because L is used widely and well 
known  in the public sector.   Are you suggesting that mm^3 be used instead of 
L?
    Stan Doore

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John M. Steele 
  To: U.S. Metric Association 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 8:09 AM
  Subject: [USMA:44476] Re: FPLA 2010


        *It is harder to visual than 1 m³
        *It uses a prefixed, incoherent "special name" unit when a coherent 
unit fits better.
        *NIST SP811 says you shouldn't use prefixes greater than 1 with the 
liter.

        Would you buy 1 mt of meat instead of 1 kg?  The tonne only makes sense 
for amounts larger than 1000 kg, and the liter only for amounts less than 1 m³. 
 Among the other "special names", I notice the are is now deprecated when 
standing alone and is only accepted as the hectare.  It probably only makes 
sense between 1 ha and 100 ha, then you think about square kilometers.  (Some 
relaxation of rules OK in tables to retain same units through a column)

        --- On Wed, 4/8/09, STANLEY DOORE <[email protected]> wrote:

          From: STANLEY DOORE <[email protected]>
          Subject: [USMA:44474] Re: FPLA 2010
          To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
          Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 7:35 AM


          The kL is the same size as a cubic metre.  So what's the problem?  
The litre is a very commonly used volume by virtually all people.
              Stan Doore


            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Bill Hooper 
            To: U.S. Metric Association 
            Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 9:58 PM
            Subject: [USMA:44468] Re: FPLA 2010




            On  Apr 6 , at 8:18 AM, John M. Steele wrote:
              I know you love the kiloliter, but I personally find the cubic 
meter a lot easier to visual.  You know, it's about 1 m x 1 m x 1 m. :)

              --- On Mon, 4/6/09, STANLEY DOORE <[email protected]> wrote:

   To go along with putting L (liter) first, (but) I suggest using the kL 
(kiloliter)
in place of a cubic meter in non-engineering (public) usage.  kL is much easier
to use and is more understandable by the public.I go along with John on this. 
Stanley may think of a kilotitre to be easier to visualize, but I don't. I keep 
trying to visualize a thousand one-litre bottles of a beverage (or five hundred 
2 L bottles, etc.). None of that works for me. 


            But a cube 1 m long and 1 m wide and 1 m high is easy to visualize. 
Before I retired, I concluded that my nice big desk in my lab occupied a space 
very close to a cubic metre. It was a bit longer than 1 m but a bit shorter 
than 1 m, and had a width of just about 1 m, so it came out quite close to 1 
m^3.


            I used that as my example of a cubic metre for students in my 
metric and in my physics classes.



            Bill Hooper
            1810 mm tall
            Fernandina Beach, Florida, USA


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