John
 
Everything you say makes perfect sense apart from your assertion that 
antifreeze elevates the boiling point.
 
Have I got this totally wrong? Anti-freeze is mainly ethanol based (think 
Italian wine scandals!!!!!!) It boils at a lower temp than water. Therefore an 
ethanol/water mixture will boil at a lower temperature (assuming identical 
pressure/temperature) than a pure water solution..........
 
Obviously the lower boiling point is more than counteracted by the fact that 
the system is under pressure, but adding ethanol to water will surely lower 
both the boiling & freezing points of the solution?????

--- On Tue, 14/4/09, John M. Steele <[email protected]> wrote:


From: John M. Steele <[email protected]>
Subject: [USMA:44674] Re: Stephen's fantasy imperial Britain
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 1:50 AM







Actually, the antifreeze will elevate the boiling point and depress the 
freezing point.  At least in US cars, the coolant MUSTN'T be water, as the 
pressure cap alone is not sufficient to keep water from boiling.  You need the 
coolant to at least approximate the recommended 50% antifreeze mixture.
 
Overheat indication is around 135 °C, with 130 °C in the normal range.  With a 
104 kPa / 15 PSI pressure cap, water will boil about 124 °C and is not a 
satisfactory coolant.

--- On Mon, 4/13/09, Ken Cooper <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Ken Cooper <[email protected]>
Subject: [USMA:44669] Re: Stephen's fantasy imperial Britain
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, April 13, 2009, 8:25 PM







OK - Let's dissect Stephen's post.
 
 
The LCD display showed my engine temp in Celsius - I have it that way as the 
coolant is water - thus?  I think you can see my thinking here!! ;-)
 
A beautiful example of Stephen's misdirection! I find it very hard to believe 
that his car has a coolant system that works with pure water at atmospheric 
pressure. The coolant mixture is highly unlikely to boil at 100 degrees C as he 
implies. The anti-freeze will lower the boiling temperature and the fact that 
the system is pressurised will act in the opposite direction.
 
In addition, I've never owned a car that displays the coolant temperature in 
any other way than a uncalibrated gauge. Can Stephen confirm which car he has 
that displays coolant temp via a digital display & how it indicates that the 
coolant temp is too high?
 



      

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