Pat,

There was a response to your belief that the Australain Anti-Metric Association 
was an April fools joke.

http://forum.gometric.us/jforum/posts/list/181.page

Jerry



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 Wishful thinking seems to cloud Pat Naughtin’s judgement when he states that 
Robert Parry’s letter to the Age Newspaper was an April hoax. 
Here is a page from the University of Melbourne Archives Database. 

Search. University of Melbourne Archives Database Search 
No. of hits: 1 
Name: AUSTRALIAN ANTI-METRIC ASSOCIATION 
Activity: Lobbyists 
Date Range: 20 February 1975 - 11 June 1976 
Quantity: 0.01 metres 
Description: Two letters from federal parliamentarians; extracts from replies 
to an A.A.-M.A. questionnaire. 
Listed: Yes listed 
Accession Number: 76/53 
UM Number: 
Details 
University of Melbourne Archives Database Search 
No. of hits: 1 
Accession Number: 76/53 
Name: AUSTRALIAN ANTI-METRIC ASSOCIATION 

Sex: Group: Community and Political, organisations 

Activity: Lobbyists 

Location: Melbourne 


Historical Note: 
Group which lobbied against the introduction of the metric system. 

Earliest Date: 1975 Latest Date: 1976 
Access: Open 

Quantity: 0.01 metres 


Description: 
Two letters from federal parliamentarians; extracts from replies to an 
A.A.-M.A. questionnaire. 

Persons: Lynch, Phillip 
Poase, Bob 

Organisations: 

Places: 

Subjects: Metric system 

Listed: Yes listed 
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eric 
Admittedly it was a rather short lived affair, 20 February 1975 - 11 June 1976, 
but nevertheless it existed. 

One other observation while I am at it. Australian metrication made some 
backwards steps since we signed the Australian Free Trade Agreement with Uncle 
Sam.Television is almost drowning in American crap since then and newsreaders 
on both government channels, ABC less so than SBS revert ever so often to 
imperial with whole news segments bought cheaply (SBS) bombarding Australians 
with USC. Ten foot waves, six feet of water, so many inches of rain/snow 
falling on horsepowered cars depict a dismal measurement landscape. How far 
that regression goes on commercial channels I do and don't want to know. US 
made children, teenage and adult shows have to be shown under the agreement 
with whatever measurements they use. It is with children shows that most of the 
damage is done. So much for progress!       
"2009-04-21 04:51:57 +0000" 
    Subject: Re:A blast from the past.   
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 Here is another confirmation of that sad state of affairs. PM Hawke had of 
course nothing to do with that ugly change. This "honour" is reserved for J.W. 
Howard an arch conservative prime minister, who would have rather bitten his 
tongue off than uttering a metric measurement. His government introduced and 
signed the AFTA with the US that allowed USC on imported goods. The irony is 
that Australia pays dearly for that privilege with annual trade in favour of 
America. 
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Re: Re: SubWay on 01/10/2009 18:33:18 MST 

"She looked blank and then asked "will a foot long sub be OK"??" 

And NZ is officially metric! 

That is one of the problems in Australia too - Subway is an US brand so 
everything is in Imperial measurements and they don't adapt their marketing for 
metric countries. One of the stupidest, most craven things the Hawke government 
did was allow American companies to use imperial in print advertisements in 
Australia - so now when I pick up Wild I see MSR etc ads claiming their tents 
"weigh just 4 lbs!!" Prior to that you weren't allowed to use imperial 
measurements in ads in Australia. 

(For the record, the other stupid thing Hawke et al did was bowing to pressure 
from the US and allowing foreign sunscreen brands to advertise their sunscreen 
as "30+". Previously the max SPF you were allowed to claim was 15+. This was 
because SPF is a reverse logarithmic system, so SPF30 is not twice as effective 
as SPF15, which is what you'd naturally presume, it's actually about 1%. But 
claiming SPF30 - or SPF50 as I saw recently on some clothing - really is a 
great marketing tool ... 
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eric 
Now, why would Yanks use such a misleading way to market their product? Pity 
Australia does not have the EU to protect it from such underhand practices. 
 
  
 
[USMA:44713] Re: A blast from the past - Australian anti-metric Association
Pat Naughtin
Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:45:20 -0700
Dear Jerry,

Note the release date — April 1st — and then know that this organisation only 
ever existed for that one day. Here is the headline: 
"Australian consumers are yards behind in the move afoot to think metric". - 
The Age, (Melbourne) April 1st. 
Cheers,

Pat Naughtin
Geelong, Australia

P..S. I was once involved in a 'debate' where some people suggested that the 
'90 mile beach' should be renamed. This was another story that was released on 
April 1st. 
On 2009/04/18, at 9:29 AM, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote:


Pat,

Can you tell us what ever happened to this organization and also can you tell 
us what happened to the diehards? Did they eventually give up or are they still 
fighting against the metric system? Are they like Stephen Humphreies who look 
for remnant imperial uses and have developed a fantasy world where everything 
is still imperial? 
Jerry


Here is a blast from the past that should sound very familiar to Yanks today. 
Published April 1976 in a right wing paper it echoes not only American right 
wing sentiments, but British ones as well. One has to take his anti metric 
diatribe as a revolt against the left wing government that introduced it. The 
irony is had Britain metricated like Australia, everybody, except a few diehard 
and misguided super patriots would happily talk in metric terms now and glad to 
do so. 
"METRIC MUDDLES
"Australian consumers are yards behind in the move afoot to think metric". - 
The Age, (Melbourne) April 1st. Mr. Robert Parry, President of the Australian 
anti-Metric Association says that people are not thinking Metric, and that 
advertisers are now swinging back to the "old" imperial measures. Fruiterers 
are selling fruit and vegetables in pounds and ounces. Home and property buyers 
are hopelessly confused by metres and centimeters, and hectares etc. Mr., Parry 
is not against progress; he is a smart, modern man; a highly successful public 
accountant.. Mr. Parry states that the adoption of the metric system is 
definitely not progress - just an expensive change. Expensive for the consumer; 
he can give many examples of increased costs to the individual consumer from 
metrication. We have always "felt in our bones" that there was something phony 
about metrication. No one was asked about it. There was no referendum. It 
wasn't even discussed in Parliament. It
 just appeared from nowhere, and grew - like Topsy. The same with 
decimalisation. Who was asked about decimal currency? Were you? Was your Member 
of Parliament? Who was then?! It just "appeared". Some one wants decimal 
currency and metric weights and measures for us, and not only us. Even the 
U.S.A. is being pushed metric now. We say, "pushed" advisedly, for that's the 
real state of affairs. Decimalisation and metrication are being pushed onto 
Western countries where they have not been accepted before. What do we think? 
It's pretty obvious; the One World advocates in the Halls of Power at the 
United Nations, and elsewhere, have done deals all over the world to have 
standardisation of currency, weights and measures enforced as a necessary step 
along the road to World Government. But there is more to it than that. Mr. 
Parry puts his finger on the pulse; he says that the old systems grew up 
because the measures were convenient for those that used them. They
 naturally were, at least in part, a reflection of the character of the people 
from which they sprang, and which they served. Our currency, weights and 
measures are part of the tradition of our race, and what ordinary decent people 
feel when these "new fangled" changes are rudely introduced is the confusion 
induced by an attack upon our traditions. The same confusion is generated when 
the political subversives attack our Anthem and our Flag. Mr. Parry believes 
that the metric system will prove to be outdated - there are better systems. He 
says that advanced computers use a 16 base system; the computers that control 
guided missiles cannot do decimal calculations; decimal calculations are too 
slow! Mr. Robert Parry is doing a first class job. He should be given support. 
Mr. Bob Parry, President of the Australian Anti-Metric Association, is an 
inspiring example of what a dedicated individual can achieve. Mr. Parry has 
gathered others around him in his
 campaign to halt the metric madness. A petition asking the Federal Government 
to repeal the Metric Conversion Act has been signed by thousands.. Mr. Parry's 
commonsense approach must appeal to all those who have had enough of the metric 
madness. Let's go back to pre-1970 when any section of the community who wanted 
to go metric could do so. Those wishing to help the Anti-Metric Association can 
write to 50 Cardigan Street, Carlton, Victoria." An explanation of Australia's 
pre decimal currency and why only ardent royalists wanted to hang on to it. 
That simple lot came in three penny bits, florins, and half crowns which were 2 
shillings & sixpence. A crown was 5 bob & the smallest paper note was 10 bob, 
two of which made a pound. There was only one peculiar exception, that of a 
guinea, this was 21 shillings allowing the auctioneer to make his 5 % 
commission by paying the customer in pounds.. 
1 penny = two ½ pennies of which 480 made one pound’

6 pennies = 12 half pennies =sixpence

12 pennies = 1 shilling

20 shilling one pound
21 shilling 1 guinea



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