Simon:

There is work afoot to dissociate the kilogram from an artifact. I have some
information on that, but I'm not sure it's available for public distribution
yet.

However, Jim Frysinger can probably tell you what the approach is without
having to look it up.

Bill
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Bill Potts
W <http://wfpconsulting.com/> FP Consulting
Roseville, CA
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Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 20:31
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:45578] defining the kilogram from the joule


Why is the kilogram a base unit in SI instead of the joule?  The kilogram is
the only base unit still defined from an artifact.  Since the artifact can
change with time and the kilogram has been know to do so, wouldn't it be
better if a different unit were to replace the kilogram as a base unit?

Energy is the most fundamental substance in nature.  Energy has always
existed, even before the universe was created and will exist long after the
universe is gone.  Energy is universal.  Wouldn't it be simpler to define
one joule of energy from basic principles in physics and define the kilogram
from the joule in the relationship that 1 kg = 1 J s**2/m**2?

Or, the kilogram can be defined from the newton, the meter and the second,
which are already accurately defined.

The ampere also should not be a base unit, the coulomb should be.   Since
the ampere is defined from the newton and the newton is defined from the
kilogram, then the practical realization of the ampere is affected when the
kilogram changes.

>From the Wikipedia article on the coulomb:

In principle, the coulomb could be defined in terms of the charge of an
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron> electron or
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_charge> elementary charge. Since
the values of the  <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephson_constant>
Josephson (CIPM (1988) Recommendation 1, PV 56; 19) and
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Klitzing_constant> von Klitzing (CIPM
(1988), Recommendation 2, PV 56; 20) constants have been given conventional
values (KJ ≡ 4.835 979 × 1014 Hz/V and RK ≡ 2.581 280 7 × 104 Ω), it is
possible to combine these values to form an alternative (not yet official)
definition of the coulomb. A coulomb is then equal to exactly 6.241 509 629
152 65 × 1018 elementary charges. Combined with the present definition of
the  <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ampere> ampere, this proposed definition
would make the  <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilogram> kilogram a derived
unit.


The ampere can then become a derived unit (1 A = 1 C/s) that is very
accurately defined since the coulomb and the second are accurately defined.
The newton would be defined as:
1 N = 1 J/m.s; if the joule is base unit defined from some principle of
physics.  The kilogram would then be defined from the newton as 1 kg = 1 N
s**2/m**2.  Otherwise, the newton would have to be a base unit and defined
from the same rule that defines the ampere, but in reverse.

Either way, this would eliminate the kilogram being tied to an artifact.

Simon



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