Robin, 

Thank you for your thoughtful follow-up. 

One thing that did not occur to me is what you so correctly mention in your 
reply: someone from the DfT (Department for Transport) should have been there 
with you, not someone from UKIP. Right off the bat, the interview was framed 
incorrectly and unhelpfully. 

Any chance for a follow-up interview with a DfT rep and perhaps a professional 
from the road safety community and someone from the international road signage 
community (and a bit more time for the interview)? 

-- Ezra 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robin Paice" <[email protected]> 
To: "John Frewen-Lord" <[email protected]> 
Cc: "ezra steinberg" <[email protected]>, "U.S. Metric Association" 
<[email protected]>, "Phillip S Hall" <[email protected]>, "Roddy Urqhart" 
<[email protected]>, "Chris Keenan" <[email protected]>, "Googlegroups 
forum" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 3:24:56 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [USMA:46055] Interview with UKMA leader Robin Paice on Rado 4 
regarding metrication 

Hello John and USMA and others 

Although it was good to get a bit of publicity, I was quite dissatisfied 
with the discussion, as it was incompetently handled by the presenter, 
Jim Naughtie. He introduced it by implying that metric units are 
somewhat strange and new-fangled and that he needed to have his 
calculations checked. When I was starting to try to explain why "two 
systems" are not a good idea, he interrupted and diverted on to 
America. This rather threw me because it is difficult to explain to a 
largely ignorant British audience (and presenter) that there is 
considerable metric usage in the US but that it is largely unseen, and 
that the US is in danger of getting into the same mess as we are in in 
the UK. Valuable time was wasted discussing American road signs, 
following which my opponent was allowed to claim (wrongly) that the 
metric signs in Arizona have been (or are to be) replaced - and I was 
given no opportunity to correct this. 

As John FL says, I also had no opportunity to refute the UKIP claim that 
it is all an EU plot to subvert the British Way of Life, but I doubt 
whether many listeners believe that anyway. When I was asked to do the 
interview, I suggested that it was inappropriate to involve UKIP as it 
is not a European issue, and it would be better to get a spokesperson 
from the Department for Transport. However, BBC journalists (whether 
biased or not - and I certainly don't think they are generally 
left-wing) presumably think that inchoate ravings from UKIP make better 
radio than a sensible discussion about metric road signs. 

As to the time allocation, my problem is that I generally try to give 
concise answers to the question asked, rather than rambling on to 
favourite, prepared themes. This may have worked to my advantage as I 
hope I managed to sound reasonably sane and moderate, whereas the UKIP 
representative must have sounded verbose, paranoid and irrational. 

Anyway, as they say, any publicity is probably good publicity. 

Robin 


John Frewen-Lord wrote: 
> I think Robin got the short end of the stick on that. Clark got both 
> the opening say AND the closing say. I think that Robin should have 
> had the chance to say that metrication of the UK is NOT an EU thing - 
> which is where I thought the dialogue was going. Unfortunately, it 
> stopped somewhat short, giving the impression that metrication in the 
> UK was being forced by the EU. 
> 
> I also roughly timed both Clark's and Robin's comments, and Clark by 
> far got the most time. 
> 
> I was going to say the usual BBC anti-metric bias, but as my previous 
> email said - sometimes the BBC can get it (mostly) right, just not 
> this time. 
> 
> For the benefit of US readers, Radio 4 is the BBC's flagship radio 
> program, predominantly serious political/socio/economic talk, but also 
> a lot of 'intellectual comedy', current affairs, documentaries, etc. 
> No advertizing or sponsorship of course, and supposedly impartial, 
> although too many of 'the beeb's' reporters and commentors have been 
> accused (sometimes rightly so) of a left wing bias. 
> 
> John F-L 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> *From:* [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> 
> *To:* U.S. Metric Association <mailto:[email protected]> 
> *Cc:* Robin Paice <mailto:[email protected]> ; Phillip S Hall 
> <mailto:[email protected]> ; Roddy Urqhart 
> <mailto:[email protected]> ; Chris Keenan 
> <mailto:[email protected]> 
> *Sent:* Friday, October 23, 2009 7:10 PM 
> *Subject:* [USMA:46055] Interview with UKMA leader Robin Paice on 
> Rado 4 regarding metrication 
> 
> I figure USMA folks would find this interesting (taken from UKMA 
> web site at http://ukma.org.uk): 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/UKMetric#p/c/04DE7CACFA86D7A4/0/LQpc7BMi1bE 
> 
> -- Ezra 
> 

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