I agree that the monthly, Automotive Engineering, used haphazard units.  
Conferences, technical papers and standards (at least the ones I used) seemed 
to better adhere to policy.

After I retired, I remained an SAE member for 2-3 years, then quit.  One 
(minor) factor was the units mess in the Automotive Engineering monthly 
magazine.  To me the question was exactly who were they writing for as all the 
employed engineers worked in metric, and had been since the mid-70's.  When had 
these alleged retired engineers retired, and why weren't they dead yet.  After 
having this argument with someone on the publications board, I concluded I 
would not renew my membership.




________________________________
From: Stanislav Jakuba <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, January 31, 2010 7:47:04 PM
Subject: Re: [USMA:46531] Re: Active metric discussion


Some decade later SAE instituted "SI only" policy in several publications and 
most standards, notably the Automotive Engineering monthly and standards such 
as J1349 I helped to write. I also served on the Metric Advisory Committee (MAC 
- it had different titles over the years). MAC was pretty much disbanded by the 
late 1990s after several letters (some say as many as 12) from (mostly retired) 
SAE members protested the use of SI. The last MAC president had not have the 
rank to overcome the back-stage politicking (nobody at MAC ever saw even 1/2 of 
those "crucial" letters), and I-P units were soon introduced alongside the 
metric (not even SI anymore). 
I wrote to the SAE Board several times that SAE publications do not follow TSB 
003 (former J916), but again - somebody with influence had it all barricaded 
solidly. And so it is nowadays I-P with SI, SI with I-P, I-P only, SI only, 
from one sentence to the next, from one issue to the other.
Stan Jakuba


On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 7:53 AM, John M. Steele <[email protected]> 
wrote:

I am amused by the frequent mention of "SAE" as some magic talisman against 
evil metric wrenches taking over the world. :)
>
>The SAE is metric and publishes its metric policy and guidelines as Technical 
>Standard Board publication TSB 003 (formerly published as J916).  Quoting a 
>snippet: "In 1969, the SAE Board of Directors issued a directive that "SAE 
>will include SI units in SAE Standards and other 
>technical reports." During the ensuing several decades, SAE metric policy 
>evolved and implementation
>progressed. The SAE’s current metric policy is, 'Operating Boards shall not 
>use any weights and measures
>system other than metric (SI), except when conversion is not practical, or 
>where a conflicting world industry
>practice exists.'"  
> 
>However the attitudes generally expressed clearly explain why automobile 
>companies convert a number of specifications back to to Customary to suit the 
>market.
>
>
>
>
________________________________
From: Pat Naughtin <[email protected]>
>To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
>Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 2:12:13 AM
>Subject: [USMA:46530] Active metric discussion
>
>
>Dear All, 
>
>
>You might be interested in and even responding to some of the remarks made 
>here: http://community.artofmanliness.com/forum/topics/the-metric-system?id=2357106%3ATopic%3A219522&page=1#comments 
>
>
>Many are quite thoughtful and thought provoking. Some others are rubbish!
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>Pat Naughtin
>Author of the ebook, Metrication Leaders Guide, that you can obtain 
>from http://metricationmatters.com/MetricationLeadersGuideInfo.html 
>PO Box 305 Belmont 3216,
>Geelong, Australia
>Phone: 61 3 5241 2008
>
>
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