I guess this is one of those 'Federal' versus local things.

 

I won't even attempt to understand how that all works!!!  :-)

I know it's different from the EU/UK arrangement but I think I am right in 
saying that the Federal rule on things like this (metric road signs) would 
overrule any local concern? Is that the case?  

 

 

------Footnote-----

By the way - word of warning - most people's posts here are being manipulated 
by John P Schweisthall (Daniel, Ametrica, etc) and are being used out of 
context or simply as a distraction on another forum (I thought it would be fair 
to let you know).
 


Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:52:04 -0800
From: [email protected]
Subject: [USMA:46692] RE: And, by the way......
To: [email protected]







Yes, it seems most of the people along I-19 in Arizona want the metric signs to 
stay (or think it is stupid to waste money replacing them.)  Meanwhile the rest 
of the country, who have USC signs, aren't clamoring for metric signs.  I think 
it just shows people resist change, whatever the change is.
 
Meanwhile, the forces of evil are changing the rules so it can't happen again.  
The MUTCD is a pretty technical thing that most people are unaware of unless 
they are in the "road business" (obvious exception for a few "metric nuts" 
here.)  The real defeat was around 1995 when Congress overturned plans from 
FHWA to both require metric road construction and metric signage.  That's when 
we lost the battle, but I always felt good that the metric option existed (the 
real usage was almost zero) in the MUTCD and was ready to go if the US ever 
came to its senses and metricated.  I think even the appendix will disappear, 
it will all be forgotten and have to be reinvented at great expense if we ever 
metricate.  Worse, I didn't know they were consuidering the change.  I 
certainly would have written an indignant letter or two, but the whole Federal 
Register request for comments didn't get any publicity here or in Metric Today. 
 Now it is published and a fait accompli.



From: Stephen Humphreys <[email protected]>
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, February 18, 2010 5:02:11 PM
Subject: [USMA:46689] RE: And, by the way......



"but everyone was too excited by hidden kilometers on UK position signs" - LOL! 
That speaks volumes! Thanks for a great quote! 


Back to the US - Isn't there something going on with those metric signs you 
have all mentioned before?  ie  - that some people have asked them to stay? 
(locals).  It might be 'deleted' in some rules but hasn't local opinion thrown 
up a few proponents?  This is what I like the most - when 'people power' steers 
what happens (that's why I really don't like the attempted metrication of the 
UK and would recommend the US not take the same route).



Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 12:21:00 -0800
From: [email protected]
Subject: [USMA:46684] RE: And, by the way......
To: [email protected]





Sadly, there is little there to discuss.  The latest (2009) MUTCD has deleted 
metric dimensioning of signs.  Well it is "hiding" in an appendix, but you'd 
have to do some work to dig it out.
 
Metric messages for the signs have been entirely deleted.
 
I suspect the few existing metric signs will revert to USC units when they are 
up for replacement.  I remarked on this in another message, but everyone was 
too excited by hidden kilometers on UK position signs.





From: Stephen Davis <[email protected]>
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, February 18, 2010 2:29:06 PM
Subject: [USMA:46681] RE: And, by the way......


 
"Perhaps we could steer this more towards the use of imperial or metric on 
roads in the USA which - after all - is what this listserver is meant to be 
representing (even if the occasional glimpse of 'how others do it' adds some 
interest to the debate)."
 


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