Your first point is very valid.  It's also possible that those distances will 
pass from father to son, mother to daughter etc.  Another VERY important thing 
(imho) is that Ireland have not done the draconian things that S.A and 
Australia did - and that is to ban items such as measuring devices with 
imperial written on them - like rulers, tapes and probably adverts etc.  Plus 
there's that big neighbour to the east and the even bigger neighbour to the 
west.  And the internet!  incidentally - the cab drivers are SO chatty and 
interestingly when I mentioned about how things had got so expensive he 
retorted with 'That's the feckin EU that did that' !! 
As for the second option - the various policemen said 'yards' far too quickly 
and naturally.  Also there's a bit of rivalry between the Irish and Britons - 
especially minutes before a rugby game between the two ;-) so I think -being 
helpful to those brits' might not come into it!! ;-)  Fortunately though - we 
weren't sent down the wrong roads - that would be too mean. lol.  
Incidentally and a bit off topic - Croke park is right in the middle of a very 
rundown and awful area (I don't think I'm being too snobbish in saying that - 
it was very different to other parts of Dublin.  On the walk to the ground my 
other half got hit on the back by an accurately hurled potato!  One wonders if 
that was a reminder of our nasty past :-).


Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:37:08 +0000
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
CC: [email protected]
Subject: [USMA:46942] Re: Benchmark Ireland



Along those lines, Irish cab drivers used meters calibrated in miles until just 
a few years ago. And people who grew up thinking of distances to certain 
landmarks in miles will likely continue to do so.

Another possibility is that folks in Ireland who find they are speaking to a 
Briton (because of his accent) may assume that they should "translate" into 
Imperial for their benefit. Those Irish are such a gracious and accommodating 
lot!    :-)

-- Ezra

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Davis" <[email protected]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 12:27:38 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [USMA:46941] Re: Benchmark Ireland







"
"It's been some time since Ireland switched so it is interesting to hear 
the use of imperial for walking (and thus road) distances.  I wonder if 
it's simply down to 'convenient talking' - ie that 'yard' is single syllable to 
'metre's' two."
 
Probably.  But that's maybe slightly misleading.  Around 
99.9% of people from the UK don't ask for a 150ml can of Coke - they ask for 
a can of Coke.   They won't ask for 250g of 
cornflakes, they'll ask for a box of cornflakes.
 
In Ireland, they used imperial for centuries before adopting metric 
measurements, as they did on the UK.  Although metric is used more 
extensively in Ireland, it is likely that imperial words such as yard and mile 
will take years to disappear from the use of language.  If something is 
easier to say, (miles rather than kilometres) then humans, being the lazy beast 
that we are, will maybe opt for the thing that's slightly easier to say.
 
I don't think it's neccessarily because people prefer imperial when using 
imperial style words; I think it's just that people feel more comfortable in 
certain situations using them.
 
If something has been used for centuries, it is not going to to 
disappear from the language overnight.  I don't think it means, in the 
majority of cases, that Irish people preder imperial, its just that they 
probably feel more comfortable using those words.  



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Stephen 
  Humphreys 
  To: U.S. Metric Association 
  Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 11:26 
  PM
  Subject: [USMA:46932] Benchmark 
  Ireland
  
I know some here are interested in how metrication has worked, 
  or not, in other countries.
  

  I went to Ireland this weekend (to Dublin actually) - anyone who knows my 
  nationality might understand why!! 
  

  As per all my recent trips there the signs were, of course, in metric. 
   This time we rented a car for the weekend because (get this) it was 
  cheaper to rent a car and drive it to Dublin from the airport and leave it 
for 
  the weekend then drive it back than the cost of a taxi to do the 
  same! 
  The only signs that weren't in metric were those for height and width. 
   These had both imperial and metric.  I wonder if the reason is to 
  fend off any compensation claims for damaged vehicles.  These days of 
  'compensation culture' as Prince Charles has called it.
  

  Some here are more interested in the usage of measures 'in real life' 
  rather than via mandate (reality versus rules).  We had to ask three 
  separate police officers (Garda) directions somewhere and each one used 
  hundreds of yards when talking walking distance.  Also taxi drivers spoke 
  in miles when we asked about various things. 
  It's been some time since Ireland switched so it is interesting to hear 
  the use of imperial for walking (and thus road) distances.  I wonder if 
  it's simply down to 'convenient talking' - ie that 'yard' is single syllable 
  to 'metre's' two.
  

  All fairly interesting regarding W&M (imho)
  

  SteveH

  
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