Paul do you have a reference I can download and take to my doctor listing the 
preference for kilogram body mass.

Mike Payne
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Trusten 
  To: U.S. Metric Association 
  Cc: U.S. Metric Association 
  Sent: Sunday, 23 May 2010 05:05
  Subject: [USMA:47415] Re: Using metric at the doctor


  Carleton,I wish you the same thing Ezra did. 

  Wih regard to your question about healthcare professionals converting back to 
traditional units for height and weight, here we are dealing with a cultural 
matter.  In the U.S., traditional units ought to stop at the hospital's front 
door, but usually they don't. People are allowed to bring their pounds and feet 
into the building and get those pounds and feet documented in the medical 
record. Only a minority of U.S. hospitals and medical offices have a metric 
culture with regard to patient height and weight (the Austin Medical Center in 
Minnesota comes to mind) .  By metric culture, I mean that only metric units 
are reported. For example, to do this, only metric scales should be used to 
measure height and weigtht, and the readings reported as seen. Conversion back 
to traditinal units should not be allowed, and certainly not documented.  

  I am a practicing hospital phamacist, and not only do I share your opinion 
that only metric units should be used, I am constantly having to convert pounds 
and feet/inches into kilograms and centimeters to do my work safely.  Many 
drugs are dosed on a mg/kg of body weight basis; on mg/m^2 body surface area; 
and I believe that the retention of two systems of measurement is somewhat 
dangerous.  The Institute for Safe Medication Practice (ISMP), a very 
influential medication safety organization, feels the same way concerning 
medications. Last year, ISMP posted a recommendation that the prescribing of 
medication should be metricated right down the line, from the writing of teh 
prescription to the advising of the patient at the pharmacy consultation window 
(see attachment). 

  Paul Trusten, R.Ph.
  Public Relations Director
  U.S. Metric Association, Inc.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: [email protected] 
    To: U.S. Metric Association 
    Cc: U.S. Metric Association 
    Sent: 22 May, 2010 19:03
    Subject: [USMA:47409] Re: Using metric at the doctor


    Best of luck, Carleton! Hope all turns out well for you ...
    Ezra

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Carleton MacDonald" <[email protected]>
    To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
    Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 4:37:01 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
    Subject: [USMA:47407] Using metric at the doctor


    The past few weeks, I’ve been seeing doctors more often than normal, as my 
urologist discovered some prostate cells that don’t belong there and wants to 
take the whole thing out.  There’s been a lot of pre-surgical work done by my 
regular doctor and a cardiologist as well.



    Invariably, they ask for my “weight” (sorry) and height.  I give it to them 
as 178 cm and 102 kg, indicating that this is the only way I know either.



    ·         The urologist’s nurse took the information with no comment, and 
just wrote down what I said.

    ·         My regular doctor took it, but converted.

    ·         The cardiologist’s nurse took it, and converted.

    ·         The catheterization nurse (male) was visibly upset, and made a 
point of using his iPhone to convert to colonial units.  I commented to him 
that this was a medical procedure and I thought all medical procedures and 
records used metric only (in a manner that expressed an opinion that if they 
don’t, they should be).



    I used to be with Kaiser Permanente through 2006, until my employer took 
away that option.  In the last couple of years they were converting all their 
records to metric, if I recall.



    Still a long way to go.



    Carleton



    P.S.  The operation will be in a couple of weeks.

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