Dear John,

I have interspersed some thoughts.

On 2010/11/15, at 23:55 , John M. Steele wrote:

> Is it really worth the energy to be "appalled?"

The word is used for effect to someone who just doesn't know or care -- the 
journalist. The casual use of the line, "With the metric system given the boot 
for the afternoon …" which sets an unfortunate precedent for others to, 
similarly, "give the metric system the boot". It's a cultural thing to lead 
communities back to the days of old pre-metric measuring words.

Remember that the UK almost completed their metrication upgrade before 1980 
when an election required the Thatcher government to "save the pint and the 
pound for Britain". With these two old pre-metric measuring words the Thatcher 
government changed the culture from generally favouring the metric system to 
one of active opposition to it. The UK is still suffering, and will continue to 
suffer from this (ignorant and innocent) act of treachery for many years to 
come.

> My view -- every sport has a document defining the "rules of the game," by 
> some title, and an association which maintains those rules.  The rules are 
> the rules until the association changes them.  For anyone who cares enough to 
> watch the game, the field is plainly marked in yards.  Translating game 
> statistics of an Imperial/Customary game to metres is as silly as US 
> publications converting metric track and field events to feet and inches.  I 
> have no issue with a parenthetical conversion, but the primary reporting 
> should use the official units of the game.  Supplemental units should be used 
> as deemed necessary based on the readers.

Go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gridiron_football#Origin_of_the_gridiron 
where you will see the original dimensions for Gridiron football. It doesn't 
require much imagination to notice that:

330 feet is very close to 100 metres, and
160 feet is very close to 50 metres

I wonder if the planners of 1911 were already considering that they would be 
changing to metric at some time in the future.

By the way, if the field size remained much the same except that its 
description was changed to rounded metres (such as the cross bar shall be 3 
metres high) then each play could go:

        "The whole nine metres"

> When the game is officially converted, the reporting should be as well. A 
> good example is your horse race (Australia Cup?).  It has been converted to 
> 3200 m and should be described as such (or 3.2 km). A parenthetical (about 2 
> miles) is fine, but it should not be converted in primary reporting.  If 
> yards are that unacceptable in polite Australian society, the pressure should 
> be on the association to change the rules of Australian Gridiron, not on the 
> reporter to depart from official units and records.

It is the "Melbourne Cup" and it has been raced over 3200 metres since 1974. A 
parenthetical (about 2 miles) would only be appropriate if it is your overall 
policy to retain the culture for your whole society with the old pre-metric 
culture appropriate to the early 1600s. I suspect that this 1600s policy is 
used by the AP Style book (albeit ignorantly and innocently). I also think that 
this is also the policy of the BBC in London when they reported the Melbourne 
Cup as a two-mile race (without any reference to the true length of 3200 
metres).

Cheers,

Pat Naughtin
Geelong, Australia

> From: Pat Naughtin <[email protected]>
> To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sun, November 14, 2010 10:27:29 PM
> Subject: [USMA:48863] Re: Yards Come to Australia
> 
> 
> On 2010/11/15, at 12:20 , John M. Steele wrote:
> 
>> I was surprised by this article.  Apparently there is a league there which 
>> plays American rule football, which is called Gridiron, there.
>> (there is also a Google article)
>>  
>> http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/sport/other/firebirds-storm-home-for-5th-title/1996688.aspx
>> "With the metric system given the boot for the afternoon, Milne put in a 
>> dominant display which saw him named most valuable player rushing 133 yards 
>> from 14 carries and also having four receipts for another 24 yards."
> 
> 
> 
> Dear John,
> 
> I imagine, without seeing it, that the field of play would have been marked 
> out as shown in either of the diagrams at 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gridiron_football and as you can see these are 
> both marked out in yards.
> 
> Canberra is the Australian Capital Territory and, as such, it has all the 
> foreign embassies including the USA Embassy and the Canadian Embassy. I 
> suspect that the supporters at the ground might have included a lot of 
> homesick North Americans. Sadly, one of the symptoms of their homesickness 
> appears to be a longing for old pre-metric measuring words!
> 
> However, that said, newspapers here generally put translations of foreign 
> words like 'yards' into parentheses. Accordingly, I have written to the 
> Editor of the Canberra Times as follows:
> 
> ##
> Dear Editor,
> I have just read the article, Firebirds storm home for 5th title by DAVID 
> POLKINGHORNE, 
> athttp://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/sport/other/firebirds-storm-home-for-5th-title/1996688.aspx
>  and 
> I am appalled that you did not translate  the gridiron distances into metres 
> for Australian readers. Australia is not a state or a colony of the USA or 
> Canada and foreign terms like yards should be translated into modern metric 
> system units.
> Regards,
> Pat Naughtin
> Geelong, Australia
> ##


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