Air pressure would not be relevant in the hanger example as it acts on both 
sides, and has no net effect.
 
In the pressure data in your Optimal School, it may matter, but it depends on 
the nature of the analysis and whether you need absolute or gauge pressure in 
calculations.

--- On Wed, 2/9/11, Pat Naughtin <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Pat Naughtin <[email protected]>
Subject: [USMA:49840] Re: MM93-Item 3, Aircraft Hanger
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, February 9, 2011, 7:54 PM


Dear John,


I found this reference in my travels:


http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/k-12/WindTunnel/Activities/fluid_pressure.html 


It looks like approximated the pressure due to the water and forgot to add the 
effect of the air pressure. I will reconsider and correct.


Cheers and thanks again for alerting me to this,


Pat Naughtin
Geelong, Australia



On 2011/02/10, at 05:08 , John M. Steele wrote:






I just received Metrication Matters 93, and saw the aircraft hanger example 
again.  As it is snow season in the US, and people need to worry about their 
roofs, I have to point out two huge errors in the example as I don't believe 
anyone should rely on that example.
 
80 cm of snow != 8 mm of rain
 
Even if the 10% rule were true, it would imply 80 cm of snow is 80 mm of rain.  
Doing some Googling on snow load and roof designs, I find the density of wet, 
heavy snow is more like 32-33% water density, 320 - 330 kg/m³.  The Washington 
(DC) area is not noted for light, fluffy powder, and light fluffy powder isn't 
what collapses roofs.  Using the 320 kg/m³ x 0.8 m, the actual roof load was 
more like 256 kg/m³ if the drainage system was still working, not the 8 kg/m² 
of the worked example.
 
Flat roofs are a particular problem as snow tends to clog drainage and then you 
get slush, a mixture of ice and water.  Not surprisingly, the density of slush 
lies between 920 kg/m³ (ice) and 1000 kg/m³ (water).  The figure above of 320 
kg/m³ is for drained (but wet) snow  - imagine snow on a screen so any water 
melt can drip out.
 
I can't find the spec for flat roofs, a lot of local codes in the northern US 
are 35-40 lb/ft² for sloped roofs.  That converts to 170 kg/m².  Some extreme 
snow areas are higher, and I would expect flat roofs to be higher.
 
If anybody is worried about their roofs, please use at least 320 kg/m³ for wet 
snow on sloped roofs.  If you have a flat roof, determine whether the drain is 
working, it will be the difference between 320 kg/m³ wet snow and 960 kg/m³ 
slush.












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