Q: How many Microsoft engineers does it take to change a light bulb?

A: None - darkness will become the new standard.

 

Is this not another way of expressing Remek's comments?

 

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Pat Naughtin
Sent: 25 March 2011 20:55
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:50193] Re: iPhone & Fahrenheit

 

On 2011/03/25, at 23:15 , John Frewen-Lord wrote:





Sadly, the comment that Remek makes, "Why adjust our product to the
world--let's make the world adjust to it." is the American way.  I come
cross it so often.  Take Windows - those of us in other countries have to
spend quite some time adjusting our settings to measurement and date formats
from the default US way (which virtually no-one else in the world uses).

 

Dear John,

 

It is worse than just weather default settings. In the Optimal School
document at http://metricationmatters.com/docs/OptimalSchool.pdf I wrote as
part of a mythical report:

 

##

Another insight I gained from a seventh grade teacher is that she will not
use the "Pages" program from

the Apple computer company because they divide centimetres into quarters and
not into decimal

fractions or into millimetres. She says:

 

In fact, the Apple Company will not even let us choose millimetres to layout
our pages.

Children might be doing an assignment on the history of the metric system
and, according

to Apple, when they want to layout their pages they have to work either in
inches and

fractions of inches, or in centimetres divided into halves and quarters.

 

Then she added:

 

. and the Microsoft Company is no better - all of their defaults in
Microsoft Word are in

inches and fractions of inches. To be fully metric, all students in all
schools have to fight

daily against these two major software companies and their backward looking
attitude to

modern measurement. Their attitude is pre Simon Stevin, so they are pre
1585!

##

 

Cheers,

 

Pat Naughtin

Geelong, Australia

 

On 2011/03/25, at 23:15 , John Frewen-Lord wrote:





Sadly, the comment that Remek makes, "Why adjust our product to the
world--let's make the world adjust to it." is the American way.  I come
cross it so often.  Take Windows - those of us in other countries have to
spend quite some time adjusting our settings to measurement and date formats
from the default US way (which virtually no-one else in the world uses).

 

And it can work for the US.  On my last trip to Canada, I noticed a
provincial document that used the US MM-DD-YYYY date format.  I was visiting
a friend who still works for the Province, and over our 2nd or 3rd beer
asked him why that document appeared like that, when the official way in
Canada was the international YYYY-MM-DD format (it used to be DD-MM-YYYY
format, which is what my kids were taught in school in Ontario in the
1970s).  He replied that so many computers were now operated by the province
which came with the default US MM-DD-YYYY format, that there was wholesale
confusion over dates, and that far too few people changed their format to
the international one.  So the province took the easy option, and now uses
the default US one.

 

I have to say that annoys me, but only because I think the US date format is
illogical and stupid. 

 

John F-L

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Remek Kocz <mailto:[email protected]> 

To: U.S. Metric Association <mailto:[email protected]> 

Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:55 AM

Subject: [USMA:50188] iPhone & Fahrenheit

 

I find it quite amazing that in their infinite wisdom, Apple markets the
iPhone/iPod with that weather app pictured with a sunny day and 73 degrees
(unidentified, but we know which scale).  From a cursory glance at sites
outside the US, it looks like they're marketing it like this to the rest of
the world.  This really flips the software development concept of
internationalization on its head.  Why adjust our product to the
world--let's make the world adjust to it.  I know that the app can be
switched to Celsius, but Fahrenheit by default, that's just hard to believe.

Remek

 

Pat Naughtin LCAMS

Author of the ebook, Metrication Leaders Guide, see
http://metricationmatters.com/MetricationLeadersGuideInfo.html

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PO Box 305 Belmont 3216,

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Phone: 61 3 5241 2008

 

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