My container of French's mustard declares 340 g (not 226 g or 397 g) meaning 
that there are different labels for different fills.  My regret is that the 
choices of fill (sizes) are not 200 g or 300 g or 400 g.  However, I do support 
freedom of fill amounts so long as the consumer is not cheated by systematic 
short fills as determined by Maximum Allowable Variations (MAV) in the US (or 
by *tolerance boundaries* in the UK}.  EAM 

---- Original message ----
>Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 23:25:28 -0400
>From: "Kilopascal" <[email protected]>  
>Subject: Fw: [USMA:50180] Williams Changes Their Label -- I had an impact  
>To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
>
>   Thanks for sending the pictures.
>    
>   French's is a very popular brand in the US, but I
>   don't usually purchase it.  Here is a picture of the
>   same shaped bottle.  Everything looks the same
>   except the top part of the label.  Note: your label
>   has colours spelled the British way.  The US label
>   says no mess cap.
>    
>   Notice the US label shows 8 OZ. (226 g) with no e
>   mark. 
>    
>    
>    
> http://www.amazon.com/Frenchs-Classic-Mustard-14-Ounce-Squeeze/dp/tech-data/B0025VF90S
>    
>   So it proves that there is no common label for all
>   markets despite what opposers of the EU directive
>   claimed would be costly.  They wanted a common label
>   for all markets, yet they don't have one. 
>    
>   I can see where you would consider the 397 g size to
>   be just as metric since it is stated only in metric
>   and was most likely filled to a metric amount using
>   a metric filling machine and its contents tested in
>   metric.  But to me and others, it is a size that is
>   hidden USC ounces.  Maybe if it was 398 g, or any
>   size that didn't correspond to a rounded ounce size,
>   I wouldn't care either.  I believe that most metric
>   supporters prefer rounded numbers like 400 g to feel
>   comfortable that the product is truly metric.
>    
>   Best Regards
>    
>    
>    
>   From: Beranger
>   Sent: Monday, 2011-03-28 18:20
>   To: Kilopascal
>   Subject: Re: [USMA:50180] Williams Changes Their
>   Label -- I had an impact
>
>   Here are copies of the front and back labels.        
>                                                        
>   I still fail to understand your obsession with       
>   rounded metric amounts. As I have stated before, I   
>   consider this 397g package to be just as metric as a 
>   400g pack                                            
>                                                        
>   regards                                              
>                                                        
>   Ber                                                  
>                                                        
>   --- On Mon, 28/3/11, Kilopascal <[email protected]> 
>   wrote:                                               
>                                                        
>     From: Kilopascal <[email protected]>              
>     Subject: Re: [USMA:50180] Williams Changes Their   
>     Label -- I had an impact                           
>     To: "Beranger" <[email protected]>,           
>     [email protected], "U.S. Metric           
>     Association" <[email protected]>                  
>     Date: Monday, 28 March, 2011, 1:53                 
>                                                        
>     I'd be curious to see what the label for your      
>     American mustard looks like and if it is a brand   
>     I'm familiar with.  I have yet to see the e mark   
>     on American packages intended for the American     
>     market.  Unless you omitted something, your label  
>     also appears to be missing the required USC        
>     supplemental indication if sold in the US.         
>                                                        
>     The point I'm trying to make is that American      
>     packagers whined to the EU that the metric         
>     only directive would force them to have multiple   
>     labels.  Yet if I'm right in your case, your label 
>     is different than that of the US.  So the entire   
>     American argument is/was hollow.                   
>                                                        
>     The only thing I do notice is that the 397 g is a  
>     hidden 14 US ounces, whereas if this product was   
>     non-American or packaged  in a metric country it   
>     would be labeled as 400 g.  Even if the mustard    
>     was packed to the declaration I still would feel   
>     cheated out of 3 g of product.                     
>                                                        
>                                                        
>                                                        
>     From: Beranger                                     
>     Sent: Sunday, 2011-03-27 16:35                     
>     To: [email protected] ; U.S. Metric       
>     Association ; Kilopascal                           
>     Subject: Re: [USMA:50180] Williams Changes Their   
>     Label -- I had an impact                           
>                                                        
>                                                        
>                                                        
>     I have a jar of American Mustard (for hot-dogs) in 
>     my fridge. It was made and packed in the USA. It   
>     is marked "e 397 g"                                
>                                                        
>     I have no idea (and don't really care) whether it  
>     was packed to the average or minimum system. I'm   
>     happy enough to know that it falls within the      
>     specified tolerances                               
>
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