A comment on: The Chinese round everything to a round metric size before
manufacturing and the American consumer is totally .....

The Chinese are not that dumb to waste their time on duplicated converting
and risking a mistake. They sure know which hardware is made to one and only
internationally accepted standard (ISO, DIN, SAE, ..) and that they must
make the product to conform to sell. The socket wrench drive is one of many
such products standardized with also metric sizes and tolerances. They fall
into the "metric" category of "globally prevalent practice" to use my
terminology. I like your naming the drives small, medium and large as that
is indeed how we referred to them on Europe (large and small to be exact
because I only had two sizes). The same, as an example, with the spark plug
wrench - never by its size only by the name "s. p. wrench." There used to be
only one size, so today, I presume, that also are called, maybe, tiny and
ordinary.
Stan Jakuba

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Kilopascal <[email protected]> wrote:

> **
> I can see where using inch trade names for the ratchet handles can lead to
> confusion.  One way to solve the problem is not to use a number designation
> at all.  Since there are only three sizes with dimensions of 6.5 mm, 9.5 mm
> and 12.5 mm, they can be referred to as small, medium and large.
>
> If you must call them by a dimensional trade name, use the metric numbers
> of 6.5, 9.5 and 12.5.
>
> One thing I like about the Chinese, they aren't hung up on exact
> conversions from USC.  They do a hell of a lot of sensible rounding.  This
> makes everyone happy.  The Americans still think they are getting a real
> inch product.   The Chinese round everything to a round metric size
> before manufacturing and the American consumer is totally unaware.
>
> Having the Chinese build American products assures the products are
> properly metricated to rounded sizes.
>
>
>
>
>  [USMA:51044] Re: US should weigh up one vital change
>
> John M. Steele
> Tue, 30 Aug 2011 12:26:36 -0700
>
> I believe he is referring to the rachet handles (the square drive dimension
> that the sockets connect onto) and not the bolts that the sockets fit.
>
> --- On Tue, 8/30/11, Michael Payne <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> From: Michael Payne <[email protected]>
> Subject: [USMA:51043] Re: US should weigh up one vital change
> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
> Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2011, 3:01 PM
>
>
> A 1/4  and a 3/8 you might need, but the 1/2 is so close to 13 mm it should 
> not
> matter. Turns out the 10 mm and 13 mm are quite common bolt/nut sizes. The 10
> mm will fit a 3/8 bolt but might be a bit loose.
>
> The 1/4 inch used to be a common appliance size bolt, but now they are all 
> made
> in China or Korea the 1/4 will not fit anymore.
>
> Mike Payne
>
> On 29/08/2011, at 15:39 , [email protected] wrote:
>
> > China is defiantly benefitting from our ignorance, if you have a Harbor
> > Freight store in for area, you would know it is 100% China made products, I
> > am defiantly boycotting this store, they sale mostly 'English' tools, no
> > Metric drills of any sort, and some Metric tool sets. People think they are
> > saving money there, but you are buying two sets of tools. No thanks, no more
> > Imperial tools for me, but still need to buy 1/4, 3/8, 1/2 socket set as I 
> > do
> > not know of any Metric versions.
> >
> >
> > Bruce E. Arkwright, Jr
> > Erie PA
> > Linux and Metric User and Enforcer
> >
> >
> > I will only invest in nukes that are 150 gigameters away. How much solar
> > energy have you collected today?
> > Id put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I hope
> > we dont have to wait til oil and coal run out before we tackle that. I wish 
> > I
> > had a few more years left. -- Thomas Edison♽☯♑
> >
>
>
>

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