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--- On Mon, 7/23/12, John M. Steele <[email protected]> wrote:


From: John M. Steele <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [USMA:51785] Re: Mayor Bloomberg Tries to Destroy the Metric 
System in NYC
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 10:17 AM







No, it applies to any form, if sold in deli, fast food establishment, etc.  It 
does not apply in a grocery store.  At least according to NYT.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/31/nyregion/bloomberg-plans-a-ban-on-large-sugared-drinks.html?pagewanted=all
 
While 6 packs, 8 packs etc of 500 mL bottles are sold in groceries, they are 
most often sold as individual servings in food establishment shops that don't 
have a soda fountain.  Bloomberg's nanny state is NOT just about cups.

--- On Mon, 7/23/12, Phil Chernack <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Phil Chernack <[email protected]>
Subject: [USMA:51785] Re: Mayor Bloomberg Tries to Destroy the Metric System in 
NYC
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 9:58 AM



I believe this ban only applies to restaurant beverage cups like you find in a 
fast food place.  Bottled beverages would not be affected.  Even Big Gulps 
would still be legal under the plan.  The 500 ml bottle would not be affected.  
If the plan was implemented as you are envisioning, 2 L bottles would be 
illegal.
 
Regardless, it is a nanny-state type of move and is a little overboard.  I 
understand the smoking ban as smoking affects smokers and non-smokers alike but 
unless I spill my beverage on you, you are not affected by my beverage size 
choice.
 
Phil


On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:16 AM, John M. Steele <[email protected]> 
wrote:






Well, a slight exaggeration, but Mayor Bloomberg's ban on drinks over 16 fl oz 
with more than 25 calories per 8 fl oz serving affects many drinks bottled in 
500 mL/16.9 fl oz sizes.  Bottom-line is 16 oz is legal, 500 mL isn't unless 
lo-cal, so 500 mL will disappear in NYC, and maybe everywhere as bottlers move 
back to 16 oz to "beat the ban."
 
Seth Goldman, CEO of Honest T, has an editorial in today's WSJ, on their 35 
calorie per 8 oz tea, much better for you than 100 calorie per 8 oz soft 
drinks, but bottled at 500 mL and over the limit, so they will have to change.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444873204577537303844223474.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
 
His supporters (he would no doubt do the opposite of what I say) should urge 
him to accomodate rational metric sizes.  If he can't bring himself to say 
metric words he could raise it to 17 fl oz.  I doubt anyone serving 16 oz would 
add the extra fill, but it would cover 500 mL servings either in bottles, or if 
drink cups were metricated.

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