Walter Ziobro, sir:>.....Therefore, the fundamental unit of decimal metric time ought to be the time it takes light to travel one meter. I am not sure if YOU "grasp rightly" the term METRIC vs Decimal notation. To me Metric is What is related to METRE! Please see, my base contribution: The Metric Second; V25 N4; pp. 152-157 published through Bureau of Indian Standards, New Delhi in April 1973; inclusive of the term Nautical Kilometre derived from 'hypothetical Earth' with 4-qyardants of 100-metric degrees (grads) BUT that would also mean changing the trigonometric functions and other allied equivalenets.My later works directed me to examine: Why not keep 90-degree quadrant x 100' x100" and rework the entire concepts, defining The term - Decimal Second = 1/240000th of the day? This ensure the Day, Weeks, current months in Gregorian calendar, Year UNCHANGED and the calendar be capable to operate with 128-years, 400-years, 834-years, 896-years cycles providing the BEST possible Mean Year values! More so, this link the ancient Time count and the current time counts: 86400 x 600 sub-units :: 240000 x 216. The Decimal (time) second and circular measure 90*60'x60" are equated to 90*100' x100"(decimal) i.e. 324000" are 900000"(decimal) - in circular measure making astronomy easier.Regards, Brij Bhushan Vij Wednesday, 2013 February 06H17:12(decimal)EST Aa Nau Bhadra Kritvo Yantu Vishwatah -Rg Veda The Astronomical Poem (revised number of days in any month) "30 days has July,September, April, June, November and December all the rest have 31 except February which has 29 except on years divisible evenly by 4; except when YEAR divisible by 128 and 3200 - as long as you remember that "October (meaning 8) is the 10th month; and December (meaning 10) is the 12th BUT has 30 days & ONE OUTSIDE of calendar-format" Jan:31; Feb:29; Mar:31; Apr:30; May:31; Jun:30 Jul:30; Aug:31; Sep:30; Oct:31; Nov:30; Dec:30 (365th day of Year is World Day) ******As per Kali V-GRhymeCalendaar***** "Koi bhi cheshtha vayarth nahin hoti, purshaarth karne mein hai" My Profile - http://www.brijvij.com/bbv_2col-vipBrief.pdf Author had NO interaction with The World Calendar Association except via Media & Organisations to who I contributed for A Possible World Calendar, since 1971. HOME PAGE: http://www.brijvij.com/ Contact via E-mail: metric...@hotmail.com OR
"GAYATRI LOK" Flat # 3013/3rd Floor NH-58, Kankhal Bypass, Dev-Bhoomi, HARIDWAR-249408 (Uttrakhand - INDIA) Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:37:24 -0800 From: petersonwal...@yahoo.com Subject: METRIC TIME MEASUREMENT To: calnd...@listserv.ecu.edu METRIC TIME MEASUREMENT There has been some discussion on this list of late about decimal metric time-keeping. It seems to me that a pure system of decimal metric time must be universal. By that I mean across the entire known cosmos. The most universal measure of time is derived from the speed of light. Therefore, the fundamental unit of decimal metric time ought to be the time it takes light to travel one meter. This has been measured as 1/299792448 of a second. We shall call this unit of time the light-meter (lm). This converts to 3.335641 nanoseconds (ns). Therefore, 3.335641 SI seconds would equal 1 giga-light-meter (Glm). For the sake of convenience, I shall round this to 3 1/3 SI seconds. Consequently, given that there are, on average, 86,400 SI seconds in a mean solar day, there would be 25,920 giga-light-meters (86,400/3.3333...), or if you prefer, 25.920 tera-light- meters (Tlm) in a mean solar day. Now, if we are going to use a time keeping system that's independent of the earth, or any celestial body or cycle, we can simply start counting giga-light-meters, independently of terrestrial solar days or tropical years. It would be like a digital clock that would show a tera-light-meter every 3333.3333... seconds, or every 55.5555... minutes, or every 0.925925925... hours. What should be the epoch of such a system? We could start at the calculated point of the Big Bang (13.772+/- 0.059 billion years, or 4.346+/-0.019*10**17 seconds ago), but there's a problem with that: the uncertainty of 59 million years. What to do? IMHO, the best solution is to count the light-meters from noon of January 1, 4713 BCE (Julian), the epoch of the Julian day numbers, and just tack on the 4.346*10**17 seconds, or 130.38*10**24 light-meters to the seconds, or light-meters that have elapsed since 4713 BCE. In this way, we can count precisely the seconds, or light-meters that have taken place since the Julian day count began, and just cobble onto it the best estimate of the age of the universe currently calculated, ignoring the uncertainty. I calculate that there have been 63.66746448 exa-light-meters (Elm) From noon, January 1, 4713 BCE, to noon, January 1, 2013 CE (Julian, i.e. January 14, 2013 CE, Gregorian). Hence, the universal light-meter time on noon, January 1, 2013 CE (Julian) would be 130380063.66746448 exa-light-meters (Elm). (These are rough calculations that I made on a spread sheet; I am open to correction, if I am off somewhere. The important thing is to appreciate the conceptual framework.) Of course, no one but the nerdiest teckie is going to keep time like that. It's like trying to figure out the star date on Star Trek every time you want to know what time it is. (BTW, does anyone know how they did that, or did they just generate some random number for each episode?) So, we should have some practical convention for converting this massive temporal scheme for day-to-day use. Now, 25,920 is a very convenient number because it can be factored into 2*2*2*2*2*2*3*3*3*3*5, meaning that it can be divided into many handy sub-units. So, there are many ways we can divide up the 25,920 Glm in the mean solar day. For traditionalists, there could be 24 hours of 1080 Glm, with 60 minutes per hour of 18 GLM each. For the strict decimalist, there could be 10 deci-days of 2592 Glm, 100 centi-days of 259.2 Glm and 1000 milli-days of 25.92 Glm. For the Octonauts, there could be 8 octant-days of 3240 Glm, 64 second-octant-days of 405 Glm, and 512 third-octant-days of 50.625 Glm. For the duo-decimalists, there could be 12 twelfth-days of 2160 Glm, 144 second-twelfth-days of 180 Glm, and 1728 third-twelfth-days of 15 Glm. The possiblities are immense. There's no reason to mandate a uniform scheme on everyone, just so long as all the units are defined by the Glm. It would be sort of like in the US where any of the customary weights and measures are legal for use, so long as they are defined in metric units. Different strokes for different folks. -Walter Ziobro