Carleton, Mark, Vliestra sirs:Hanschel Mark wrote:>I also remember the hundred
weight not equalling a hundred pounds. Wierd. Also when we get to land measure.
An acre being four >rods by 40 rods, what sense does that make?Units in
'historical records' need examination in the newer light; while the
encouragement be *directed* to use Metric System of Units all over. True, there
are inherent difficulties BUT these can be over come. So our task today is to
find the SOLUTION that can mean to teach the "young and old alike".During one
of the discussions group on COUNT OF LARGE & SMALL - Quantities /Numbers - at
National Physical Laboratory, New Delhi, some 20-years ago; I pointed to my
published ideas on BRIDGING the count to large numbers, I had tried to merge
*LAKH & MILLION between East & West*. Please see below: INDO-European COUNT
(LARGE-n-SMALL QUANTITIES/NUMBERS)
Present Value Unit
Name Proposed Value (MULTIPLE)
10^24= yotta [Y] = 10^30 =1 00000 00000 00000
00000 00000 00000 10^21= zetta
[Z] = 10^25 =1 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000
10^18= exa [E] = 10^20
=1 00000 00000 00000 00000 10^15=
peta [P] (Arbud) = 10^15 =1 00000 00000 00000
10^12= tera [T]
= 10^12 =1 00000 00000 00
10^9 = giga [G] (Crore) = 10^10 =1 00000 00000 (a
million millions =billion) 10^6 =
mega [M] (Lakh) = 10^5 =1 00000 (a million)
10^3 = kilo [k] = 10^3
=1000 (a thousand) 10^2 =
hecto [h] = 10^2 =100 (a
hundred) 10^1 = deca [da]
= 10^1 =10 (ten)
U N I
T 10^-1 = deci [d]
= 10^-1 =0.1 (a tenth)
10^-2 = centi [c] = 10^-2 =0.01
(a hundredth) 10^-3 =
milli [m] = 10^-3 =0.001 (a
thousandth) 10^-6 = micro [µ]
= 10^-5 =0.00001 (a millionth)
10^-9 = nano [n] = 10^-10
=0.00000 00001 (a million millionth =billionth)
10^-12 = pico [p] = 10^-12 =0.00000 00000
01 10^-15 =
femto [f] = 10^-15 =0.00000 00000 00001
10^-18 =
atto [a] = 10^-20 =0.00000 00000 00000 00001
10^-21 = zepto
[z] = 10^-25 =0.00000 00000 00000 00000 00001
10^-24 = yocto [y]
= 10^-30 =0.00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00001
The proposed Universal Decimal Numeral
(UDN) Code multiples and sub-multiples in steps of 10^5 (1
00000) are invoked to bridge the Asian LAKH with Million 10^6 i.e. multiples in
the power of 10^3 (1000); 1000 million (to confuse with US Billion) as
compared to 1000 US Billion or simply BILLION used in Europe. The need to
count large numbers is felt with the advancements in technology – especially
in the memory discs of ‘Computer soft/hardware processors’. Multiples ‘terra-
[T]= (10^12) and sub-multiple ‘pico- [p]=10-12 are retained.
Reference: Author’s Book Towards A Unified Technology
(1982); pp211-216;
Soni Book Agency,
New Delhi.This may be viewed in COUNT/TRANSACTION of large numbers connected
in finance and commodities between East & West.Regards,
Brij Bhushan Vij
Monday, 2013 April 15H14:76(decimal)EST
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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: [USMA:52671] RE: Germany: Thieves swipe 5 tons of chocolate spread
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 08:11:02 +0100
In spite of that, Wikipedia does not follow that convention – see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heaviest_bells and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_(instrument) . From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Carleton MacDonald
Sent: 13 April 2013 22:28
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:52670] RE: Germany: Thieves swipe 5 tons of chocolate spread For
bell ringing, archaic units are still used to measure the mass of bells. It
comes from England hundreds of years ago when people could not understand large
numbers. The bells are shown in hundredweight (112 lb), quarters (28 lb or two
stone) and pounds. Three numbers. Our heaviest bell, 1629 kg, is shown as
32-0-4 which is 3588 lb – but that was an impossibly large number for most
people to understand way back when, so three small numbers were used instead.
Tradition is very hard to overcome, though occasionally in The Ringing World,
and in some individual church bell web sites, bell mass is shown in kg. We use
stone, or, rather, stones, at the Washington National Cathedral, too. It’s
what the Cathedral is made of. Limestone blocks and carved pieces of limestone
for the decorative parts. Carleton From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Henschel Mark
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 22:08
To: U.S. Metric Association
Cc: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:52649] RE: Germany: Thieves swipe 5 tons of chocolate spread I
remember standing on a scale in England and being told I am 16 stone. I think I
have gained a few kilograms since then, however.
I remember something about an ounce of feathers being heavier than an ounce of
gold, but just the opposite for pounds or perhaps tons. Maybe it is a pound of
gold heavier than a pound of feathers and an ounce of feathers being heavier
than an ounce of gold.
I also remember the hundred weight not equalling a hundred pounds. Wierd. Also
when we get to land measure. An acre being four rods by 40 rods, what sense
does that make?
Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: "John M. Steele" <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, April 8, 2013 5:28 pm
Subject: [USMA:52641] RE: Germany: Thieves swipe 5 tons of chocolate spread
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
> Since we don't believe in stones, we consider a 100 lb hundredweight FAR more
> logical than a 112 lb hundredweight (which sounds like a trick question).
> That leads to a 2000 lb ton in the US. :)
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> From: Martin Vlietstra <[email protected]>
> To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
> Sent: Mon, April 8, 2013 5:48:41 PM
> Subject: [USMA:52636] RE: Germany: Thieves swipe 5 tons of chocolate spread
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> But they got their conversion wrong – 1 tonne is 2209 lbs and an ordinary ton
> is 2240 lbs (at least that is what I was taught in school in South Africa),
> or is something different in the United States? ;-)
>
> Martin Vlietstra
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> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> John M. Steele
> Sent: 08 April 2013 16:25
> To: U.S. Metric Association
> Subject: [USMA:52629] Germany: Thieves swipe 5 tons of chocolate spread
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> Amazingly, it is an AP article and they are metric tons.
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/germany-thieves-swipe-5-tons-chocolate-spread-103316137.html
>
> BERLIN (AP) — These thieves might really have sticky fingers.
> Police said Monday an unknown number of culprits made off with 5 metric tons
> (5.5 tons) of Nutella chocolate-hazelnut spread from a parked trailer in the
> central German town of Bad Hersfeld over the weekend.
