L/100 km is a more user-friendly measurement, especially if one is concerned
about $/L (or in my case £/L) but an area has a specific meaning: a fuel
consumption of 0.1 mm^2 means that conceptually your vehicle takes in fuel
as it is travelling from a stationery pipe lying on the road that has a
cross-section of 0.1 mm^2. 

 

From: John M. Steele [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 16 March 2015 10:33
To: [email protected]; U.S. Metric Association
Subject: Re: [USMA:54641] Re: Adoption of the metric system in medicine

 

Most lab (blood) tests in the US use a denominator of deciliter and whatever
prefix is convenient in the numerator.  I think the reason is that 1 g/dL =
1% on a weight/volume basis.  I suspect that is a carryover of some prior
practice even though most "interesting" results are a fraction of a percent.
I have nothing that "proves" that, just an observation and suspicion.

 

Yes, fuel consumption reduces to an area if you "simplify" units.  I support
doing that in cases where it adds clarity.  I think you would have to admit
that, in this case, it "subtracts clarity."

 

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From: Martin Vlietstra < <mailto:[email protected]> ^2. >
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]> 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 3:19 AM
Subject: [USMA:54641] Re: Adoption of the metric system in medicine


It appears to me that certain parts of the medical profession use "odd"
prefixes so as to avoid using decimal points.  For example, in many
countries, the sugar level in one's blood is measured in mg/dL.  The result
should lie between 70 and 120. Values of both 20 and 200 are possible,
representing opposite extremes, so blood sugar level, when written in mg/dL
should never have a decimal point - ie one should write "20", not "20.0" as
the latter could be confused with "200".

Another strange use of prefixes is motor car fuel consumption, usually
written in L/100 km.  If this is reduced to base units, one ends up with a
value of the order of 0.1 mm^2!

 


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of James
Sent: 16 March 2015 00:56
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:54640] Re: Adoption of the metric system in medicine

Avoiding the use of prefixes for units in the denominator is fairly common
as a "style" (as opposed to a requirement) but that's not a rigid guideline.
As we've discussed, there are many reasons one might use prefixed units in a
denominator which "override" that style.

My view of the SI is that it is designed to be as flexible as possible. 
The limited number of "requirements" exist only to prevent ambiguities and
to provide formatting consistent with its underlying quantity calculus.

A common fault of some new adherents to the SI, in my opinion, is to impose
rigidity that was not written in to the standard, namely the SI Brochure.
That has led, on this list, to what I consider silly arguments, such as the
pronunciation of kilometer and derogation of the four "small" prefixes
between kilo and milli.

I think that we should keep in mind that the SI's primary purpose is to
facilitate commerce (Treaty of the Meter) and that is done by clearly,
simply, reliably, and unambiguously presenting the values of quantities. 
Science provides the technical realizations to cover "reliably" and the
quantity calculus covers the rest of those attributes. That's a gross
generalization but it makes a pretty picture in my mind.

Jim

On 2015-03-15 18:52, Pierre Abbat wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 20:31:08 James wrote:
>> Strangely, Chapter 5 of the SI Brochure is silent on that, Pierre. At
>> least, I could find nothing on the matter. When you describe this
>> "proper" style, which standard are you using for your reference? Would
>> you please provide a quote of its statement to that effect and it's
>> clause or section number?
>
> I don't remember the reference; it was something I picked up when studying
for
> the CMS test. One doesn't put milliseconds or kiloseconds in the
denominator,
> but one does put kilograms, because the kilogram is a base unit.
>
> Pierre
>


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