You're fortunate !  I'm old enough to remember how we had to grapple with this mess.

For the benefit of our American friends, pre decimal currency in the UK (and in Ireland, since our currency was at that time linked to sterling) consisted of

One Pound divided into twenty shillings.
Each shilling divided into 12 pennies (or 'pence').
Pennies further subdivided into half pennies and quarter pennies ("ha'pennies & "farthings").  Coins consisted of 1/4, 1/2, 1, 3, 6 pennies, along with 1, 2 shillings, 2-shillings-and-6-pence (the '2 and sixpence' or 'half crown')  (!) and notes starting with 10 shillings, 1 pound and upward.  In Ireland, we also had to contend with both British and Irish coins which both circulated. Although they used the same denominations, they used different sizes and metals.

Items would be priced in Pounds, Shillings & Pence (known as LSD (*), which stood for the Latin Librum, Sesterce & Dinarius !).

You might go into a shop and buy items priced at 5 shillings and 4 pence ("5/4"), 17 shillings and 4 pence ha'penny ("17/4½"), and 1 pound, two shillings and sixpence ("1-2-6").  Now calculate the change out of a fiver.

When I tell this to young people now, they react with incredulity that we put up with such nonsense for so long (1971), particularly as the rest of the civilized world had followed Thomas Jefferson's example of 100 subunits.

Your grandchildren will doubtless react the same way in 40+ years when you describe the mental gymnastics involved in calculating with inches, feet, yards, ounces and all the rest of these antiquated units that should have been left in the 18th century where they belong :-)

(*) Nothing to do with lysergic acid diethylamide, but you'd be excused for thinking they were related.

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On 2019-05-30 15:19, Stephen Humphreys wrote:
Too young for pounds, shillings, pence I’m afraid


On 30 May 2019, at 2:06 pm, Tom Wade <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

No doubt you are still being charged in pounds, shillings and pence, rather than this newer nasty decimal stuff :-)

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On 2019-05-28 01:46, Stephen Humphreys wrote:
My unit is in cubic feet.  I can provide photos if needed


On 27 May 2019, at 10:11 am, frewston+john <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

All gas suppliers in UK use kWh. Meters show in m3. Conversion if I remember correctly is approx. 10 - 11 kWh to the m3, depends on exact type of gas supplied. So, averaging out at 10.5, 100 m3 = 1050 kWh.


John Frewen-Lord


On 2019-05-26 19:19, James R. Frysinger wrote:

Apparently, British Gas (BG) charges for gas usage by the kilowatt hour, not by any of the strange units common in the US. BG is in the middle of a roll-out for dual fuel homes that will let users switch between the two forms of energy usage somehow. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/money/british-gas-get-a-smart-meter-or-well-charge-you-an-extra-300-93kzplzlj <https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thetimes.co.uk%2Fedition%2Fmoney%2Fbritish-gas-get-a-smart-meter-or-well-charge-you-an-extra-300-93kzplzlj&data=02%7C01%7C%7C566b49dc1a054377cf9008d6e50159a7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636948191300247993&sdata=0yqengKKkQ5%2BWOZe5bS1ouWtsqcBEHau2mVSPJ9wDzk%3D&reserved=0>

Both gas and electricity consumption is measured in kWh.
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So apparently the necessary energy unit conversions are done by BG, not by the consumers.

Jim Frysinger
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