Most people in the uk don’t use metres for short distances although I admit I 
haven’t done my own poll 😀

People are used to their Gps guidance systems these days introducing new 
drivers to yards although in many respects fractions of miles get used. On that 
point - we now almost have a generation of people who would probably not know 
how they get to work if they lost Gps connectivity!
Similarly who actually knows peoples telephone numbers any more.

John- I know you jest but many many moons ago I asked a french colleague and 
friend if he had to slam his brakes on when it said services  2m. He told me 
not to be daft

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On 20 Sep 2021, at 5:14 pm, John Steele <[email protected]> wrote:


They should take offense at the misuse of a metric symbol in Imperial. May I 
suggest the use of "mi" for miles, as used in the US, and mi/h. In the UK, I 
have always panicked at "Exit 2 m" signs for a moment before I remember the 
misuse.

On Monday, September 20, 2021, 11:25:45 AM EDT, Michael Payne 
<[email protected]> wrote:



I believe I have managed to change the editorial policy of an English language 
newspaper in France, they originally used kph for kilometres per hour. I have 
complained in numerous letters with links, telling them the SI has symbols and 
not abbreviations and what they were saying was thousands per hour. This was 
not an overnight success, I think I first wrote in 2014, about 7 years ago and 
probably found a receptive ear from someone who changed the editorial policy or 
style manual of the newspaper.

However, I notice in today's paper, the speed is also given in m/h which I 
would take as metres per hours. Wink Wink! It’s common in the UK for m to mean 
miles in many publications, despite the fact most people use metres for short 
distances.

Mike Payne

Full story:

President Emmanuel Macron was at Paris’ Gare de Lyon on Friday (September 17) 
to celebrate the 40th anniversary of France’s trains à grande 
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 (TGV) and unveil a model of the “TGV of the future.”

Bienvenue au TGV du futur : le « TGV M » ! Déployé en France à partir de 2023, 
il sera plus accessible, plus connecté et plus écologique. 
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Around 12 TGV Ms are expected to enter common circulation in early 2024, 
initially serving the southeast of France, and manufacturer Alstom will 
continue to supply them until 2031.

Previously, new TGV models have been marketed based on the speeds that they can 
reach. However, in the TGV M Alstom sought to create an “innovative and 
efficient” train with a smaller carbon footprint.

The new train — of which SNCF ordered 100 in 2018 at a cost of €2.7billion — 
will use 20% less energy than the existing model, while maintaining its top 
speed of 320km/h (199m/h).

It will also be able to carry 20% more passengers — 740 as compared to the 
current maximum of 600 — and be more adaptable, bringing with it the 
possibility of adjusting the number of carriages, switching first class to 
second class and reconfiguring the interior of each car.

Mesdames messieurs welcome à bord du TGV M : une mousse qui reproduit la tenue 
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The new model will be 97% recyclable, while generations in use today are 90% 
recyclable.

SNCF estimates that the TGV M’s design will bring its maintenance costs down by 
30%.

In April, Mr Macron’s government pledged €6.5billion to enhance France’s high 
speed rail offering and encourage train use to reduce emissions.

This sum will contribute towards the development of TGV services from 
Bordeaux-Toulouse, Nice-Marseille and Montpellier-Béziers, with an extension to 
Perpignan.

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 En attendant les premières circulations prévues en 2024, 6 choses à savoir sur 
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Mr Macron has also announced the elimination of two taxes totalling 
approximately €200million per year, which normally apply to TGVs and help to 
finance Intercités trains.

“This decade will be about innovation for the TGV,” said Mr Macron at the Gare 
de Lyon, where he was joined by Economy Minister Bruno Le Maire and Transport 
Minister Jean-Baptiste Djebbari.

In the future, Alstom hopes that its “innovative” TGV M will run in other 
European countries, following the example of services such as SNCF’s Ouigo TGV, 
which launched a Madrid-Barcelona line in May.

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