** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender ** 25% is over 80 million people. That's a lot of supporters we could tap.
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[USMA 1949] Re: A YouGov America poll shows only 25% support for the metric system (Nodextrose Org) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 12:44:52 -0700 From: Nodextrose Org <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: Martin Vlietstra <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, Peter Goodyear <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, USMA List Server <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [USMA 1949] Re: A YouGov America poll shows only 25% support for the metric system Message-ID: <caagt-h9u02lwzto9okxevnwkwiw9kj9nbn7gejhhear5ryj...@mail.gmail.com<mailto:caagt-h9u02lwzto9okxevnwkwiw9kj9nbn7gejhhear5ryj...@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" ** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender ** If you read the article carefully, it states: in metric and other coherent systems Also I was talking about the dam example which I moved to the top. On 2023-03-07 14:32, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > I red the article concerned. The author wrote that Einstein?s equation E = > mc^2 only works if you use metric units. This is not entirely true. > Einstein?s equation works for ANY coherent system of units ? it is just that > the Imperial system is not a coherent system of units. For those who are > interested, the Planck system of units is a coherent system (See > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPlanck_units&data=05%7C01%7Cusma%40lists.colostate.edu%7C76b4ef8f57084be89f8c08db3161a9ea%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C638158068055378311%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ObVvZZlg%2FZdbIxstxij9UjuOzLsuBR%2FuEOCwytU%2BmVk%3D&reserved=0), > though none of the units in that system are named. > > > > From: USMA > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> > On Behalf Of Nodextrose Org > Sent: 07 March 2023 22:02 > To: Peter Goodyear > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>; > USMA List Server > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> > Subject: [USMA 1945] Re: A YouGov America poll shows only 25% support for the > metric system > > > > ** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender ** > > I wonder how many of respondents know that all the units of electricity and > magnetism are metric and derived from meter, kilogram, coulomb and second. > > I provide a simple example in > 1 problem is many people in US can graduate from high school without taking 1 > course in science. > > Now there are people who think they can fight climate change by cooking with > electricity. > > About 80% of electricity in the U.S. comes from fossil fuel or nuclear power > plants, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration > > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eurekalert.org%2Fnews-releases%2F980038&data=05%7C01%7Cusma%40lists.colostate.edu%7C76b4ef8f57084be89f8c08db3161a9ea%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C638158068055378311%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=dJQs13MkOIcNBQVb7XKyJjVtbB7dGIhvD5wO7GqFXT0%3D&reserved=0 > > <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eurekalert.org%2Fnews-releases%2F980038&data=05%7C01%7Cusma%40lists.colostate.edu%7C76b4ef8f57084be89f8c08db3161a9ea%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C638158068055378311%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=dJQs13MkOIcNBQVb7XKyJjVtbB7dGIhvD5wO7GqFXT0%3D&reserved=0> > > if you have 1 MJ of 0 emissions electricity, if you use it to replace > electricity produced by fossil fuel, you save close to 3 MJ worth of burning > fossil fuel. if you use it to cook by electricity, you save 1 MJ worth of > burning fossil fuel. > > to minimize co2 emissions you should replace electricity produced by fossil > fuel and continue to cook with gas. > > Also, Peter i like the fact that you use the international date standard > which follows the rules of math. > > > > > > On 2023-02-26 14:05, Peter Goodyear wrote: >> ** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender ** >> >> Hello, everyone, >> >> 2023-02-11 (Sorry this is late. I?ve had email troubles. More about that at >> the end of this missive.) >> >> 1000 Americans were asked in a survey if the US should do things the way >> other countries >> do,<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftoday.yougov.com%2Ftopics%2Fsociety%2Farticles-reports%2F2023%2F02%2F10%2Fwhat-foreign-ways-doing-things-would-americans-emb&data=05%7C01%7Cusma%40lists.colostate.edu%7C76b4ef8f57084be89f8c08db3161a9ea%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C638158068055378311%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=FuuqK13rNLpqNQt2wjoMAoobCCtMX5MtNbBnJdFBFw0%3D&reserved=0 >> >> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftoday.yougov.com%2Ftopics%2Fsociety%2Farticles-reports%2F2023%2F02%2F10%2Fwhat-foreign-ways-doing-things-would-americans-emb&data=05%7C01%7Cusma%40lists.colostate.edu%7C76b4ef8f57084be89f8c08db3161a9ea%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C638158068055378311%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=FuuqK13rNLpqNQt2wjoMAoobCCtMX5MtNbBnJdFBFw0%3D&reserved=0 I6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=l09i57hx2VWDWevOA2L75sGtQmM4v3Ijamd4F7rhgEI%3D&reserved=0> &data=05%7C01%7Cusma%40lists.colostate.edu<http://40lists.colostate.edu><http://40lists.colostate.edu>%7Cb6ead07e95004c424a7408db184583b1%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C638130459214030947%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=2HdI8hYBNbhUiu3M4zzx5TJgHA4yDw%2BKll9kdu3EYsM%3D&reserved=0> in things like including sales tax in the price displayed in shops, or paying serving staff a decent wage instead of tipping them. >> >> Those two measures had 68% and 56% support, respectively, while the response >> for the suggestion that Americans use the metric system for all measures was >> 25% in favour, 27% not sure and 48% against. >> >> The breakdown of questions and responses can be seen >> here.<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.cdn.yougov.com%2F339heyjzkc%2Ftabs_Changes_to_American_Life_20220816.pdf&data=05%7C01%7Cusma%40lists.colostate.edu%7C76b4ef8f57084be89f8c08db3161a9ea%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C638158068055378311%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=lblG2XrQdb4oTXCXl%2FNLN8l3jr51%2FeXFD6h%2FweuzuyI%3D&reserved=0 >> >> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.cdn.yougov.com%2F339heyjzkc%2Ftabs_Changes_to_American_Life_20220816.pdf&data=05%7C01%7Cusma%40lists.colostate.edu%7C76b4ef8f57084be89f8c08db3161a9ea%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C638158068055378311%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=lblG2XrQdb4oTXCXl%2FNLN8l3jr51%2FeXFD6h%2FweuzuyI%3D&reserved=0> >> &data=05%7C01%7Cusma%4 0lists.colostate.edu<http://0lists.colostate.edu><http://40lists.colostate.edu>%7Cb6ead07e95004c424a7408db184583b1%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C638130459214030947%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=QlmFlvPM0TiE13mSb%2B8g%2Bi4EdWvlA5yGJOtqfstY9%2B8%3D&reserved=0> (The metric system question is Number 1D, page 4 of the results.) >> >> It's no surprise that the 18-29 year-olds were the greatest number in favour >> (35%) and the 65+ group the least in favour (17%) and most opposed. (67%) >> >> Also, Democrats and supporters of President Biden were more in favour of the >> metric system than Republicans and Trump supporters. I suppose this is no >> surprise to followers of American politics. >> >> The poll was taken over 16-19 August, 2022, but the results are being >> released now slmost 6 months later. >> >> This has been posted to Reddit?s metric forum, and comments can be seen >> here<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2FMetric%2Fcomments%2F10z0nrc%2Fa_poll_by_yougov_america_shows_only_25_support%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cusma%40lists.colostate.edu%7C76b4ef8f57084be89f8c08db3161a9ea%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C638158068055378311%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=wrP15gTLr%2Fr%2B%2FfYbg4OWgpN30szoqdlmHeyKJieVK38%3D&reserved=0 >> >> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2FMetric%2Fcomments%2F10z0nrc%2Fa_poll_by_yougov_america_shows_only_25_support%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cusma%40lists.colostate.edu%7C76b4ef8f57084be89f8c08db3161a9ea%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C638158068055378311%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=wrP15gTLr%2Fr%2B%2FfYbg4OWgpN30szoqdlmHeyKJieVK38%3D&reserved=0 F8htHSg%2BlOQWYn8Ab1eK20TiBPLc%3D&reserved=0> &data=05%7C01%7Cusma%40lists.colostate.edu<http://40lists.colostate.edu><http://40lists.colostate.edu>%7Cb6ead07e95004c424a7408db184583b1%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C638130459214030947%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=udTIutCn2GMS6K45RPzo7C9NFjxYfNNOZsJhEdpdt0Q%3D&reserved=0> >> >> It looks like we have a lot of work to do to change those numbers. >> >> Special thanks >> >> While I am here, I would like to offer many thanks to Don Hilger for getting >> me back on the USMA mailing list. >> >> I had to change my email address due to my old email provider closing down, >> so a few of my emails disappeared after I sent them to your email server. >> After I sent Don a request for help he worked over the weekend to get me get >> back on the list. >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Peter Goodyear, Melbourne, Australia >> e-mail:[email protected]<mailto:e-mail%[email protected]><mailto:e-mail%[email protected]<mailto:e-mail%[email protected]>> >> >> <mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> >> >> <mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> <mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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